Largest insurer slams medicare for all

FreeAndClear · 2019-04-17T23:00:57.316Z

Right and as a constitutional argument and the welfare clause argument and the unruly expansion of the interstate commerce. All those are arguments.

That acá was specifically designed to usher in single payer is a ridiculous argument.

Obama was a proponent of single payer. But he wound up being a corporatist. Bailouts etc.

Tilly_jow · 2019-04-17T23:01:38.351Z

Yes, yes it would. The sooner we leave this behind the better.

Tilly_jow · 2019-04-17T23:06:28.375Z

highroller:

Really? If there’s one thing I never heard it’s: “Those Democrats are so good at playing multi dimensional chess!”

You can’t be completely incompetent and brilliant schemers at the same time. Unless, of course, they’re so brilliant that they look stupid…

And some posts are so ridiculous there’s no reason to go into them in any length.

altair1013 · 2019-04-17T23:07:16.165Z

Borgia_dude:

It worked in 2016.

Nope. There was nobody running who had anything to do with the economy in 2016. That said, even I am shocked at how well the nation is doing under the president. Simply shocking.

altair1013 · 2019-04-17T23:11:38.454Z

dderatz:

Yes.

Yes.

Medicare for all means all.

Not to congress it doesn’t. It’s a lie. They have no intention of giving up their plan for Medicare. They want you to give up YOUR plan. It’s not Medicare for all. It’s Medicare for Y 'all.

altair1013 · 2019-04-17T23:38:21.482Z

party-free:

Have you read anything about him, other than what Fox and right-wing pundits tell you?

What did the Fox pundits tell me?

party-free · 2019-04-17T23:47:22.179Z

You tell me. You gush in the warm embrace of Fox. So what have they told you about him?

altair1013 · 2019-04-17T23:48:58.277Z

party-free:

You tell me. You gush in the warm embrace of Fox. So what have they told you about him?

If you watched you wouldn’t have to ask. I’m not going to do your research. You must belong to the club.

party-free · 2019-04-18T00:10:43.055Z

I didn’t ask you to write a thesis. I simply asked you a question. You know, like Fox hosts often like to do-they just ask the tough questions no one else will ask. Like me!

Oldandtired · 2019-04-18T00:14:52.323Z

No, the ACA came about because there were red state dem’s who would not get on board with single payer. Because they knew that in the next election they would be voted out by angry voters. This was the dem’s way to get their vote so they could get something anything passed.
And look what happened to those red state dems in the next midterms. They were gone. They should have listened to the people who elected them and not the leftist.

altair1013 · 2019-04-18T01:10:22.898Z

party-free:

I didn’t ask you to write a thesis. I simply asked you a question. You know, like Fox hosts often like to do-they just ask the tough questions no one else will ask. Like me!

They get paid to ask questions. It’s pretty much their only job. I do not.
If you really want to know what they say. Watch the show. If you don’t, then do not watch it. The choice is yours. I’m not giving a play by play analysis of FNC. If I want to give FNC updates, I will give them. If I don’t then I will not. Fair enough?

BTW Hannity is on right now and he’s on a roll.

ImRightYoureWrong · 2019-04-18T01:18:34.976Z

hindsight:

OP, thank you for looking out for the poor, innocent insurance companies. They are our friends.

Look at them tell everyone how awesome their current insurance plans are. Thanks Obama!

ImRightYoureWrong · 2019-04-18T01:19:50.714Z

altair1013:

Not to congress it doesn’t. It’s a lie. They have no intention of giving up their plan for Medicare. They want you to give up YOUR plan. It’s not Medicare for all. It’s Medicare for Y 'all.

In Medicare for all, everyone has access. You dont give up a plan for it. You can buy supplemental private if you want

altair1013 · 2019-04-18T01:20:44.392Z

ImRightYoureWrong:

Look at them tell everyone how awesome their current insurance plans are. Thanks Obama!

Yep. Paying 5000 dollars more per year was Awesome. He had to lie. Or he could not have gotten it through.

FloridaYankee · 2019-04-18T01:21:42.914Z

FreeAndClear:

Right. That’s why single payer was part of the original plan. It’s all a conspiracy maaaan

That’s what Obama told some group he spoke to. He said ten-fifteen years, it won’t happen overnight.

ImRightYoureWrong · 2019-04-18T01:21:44.281Z

altair1013:

Yep. Paying 5000 dollars more per year was Awesome. He had to lie. Or he could not have gotten it through.

Wooosh

FreeAndClear · 2019-04-18T04:29:18.465Z

It won’t. It was his failure to not negotiate it in the first place. He wasn’t Bill. I thought he was. I was wrong.

Drs · 2019-04-18T05:47:12.821Z

You would have to be pretty stupid to think private insurance would want to lose their profits from denying people’s claims.

Borgia_dude · 2019-04-18T08:23:31.935Z

altair1013:

Borgia_dude:

It worked in 2016.

Nope. There was nobody running who had anything to do with the economy in 2016. That said, even I am shocked at how well the nation is doing under the president. Simply shocking.

You’re right. In 2016 nobody was running on the economy being bad. Nobody was talking about true unemployment rates around 40%.

altair1013 · 2019-04-18T15:29:15.328Z

Drs:

You would have to be pretty stupid to think private insurance would want to lose their profits from denying people’s claims.

You also have to be pretty stupid to think that anyone who works in the insurance business will be happy to vote themselves out of a job. 2.66 million people.