Kid flashes white power symbol at Nashville rally

DougBH · 2018-09-09T14:56:36.976Z

Yes. They do matter. It still means “OK”., You are not authorized to change that.

CanadianJudo · 2018-09-09T14:57:22.979Z

So the swastika still mean peace?

peek-a-boo · 2018-09-09T14:57:59.273Z

I use it all the time to signify A-OK. Your OP is the first time I heard it means White Power???

Are you out of your ever living mind?

A simple google search shows Obama using the sign on multiple occasions, as have other prominent blacks. Are they White Supremacists?

You Trump Haters really need to get a life.

calirepub · 2018-09-09T14:58:14.207Z

CanadianJudo:

It not a White Power symbol its a internet trolling 4chan symbol

That’s what I’ve been saying. The kid was just trolling for the camera.

Not racist.

Donald Trump Made Trolling Great Again. It’s kind of an art form at this point.

DougBH · 2018-09-09T14:59:41.934Z

CanadianJudo:

So the swastika still mean peace?

The backward swastika, in parts of Asia, probably. But a few extremists on both sides of the internet are not the same as the German nation in WWII.
Sorry, you have not authorization to determine what other people mean.

Oryx · 2018-09-09T15:00:43.107Z

Just ignore the trolls and racists. Threads like this are exactly what they want.

peek-a-boo · 2018-09-09T15:01:19.171Z

Guilds:

Trump’s reaction to the Central park 5, and the birtherism of Obama, is more than a product of his time.

He may not be a white supremist. But he is absolutely a racist. And as a rich white man, (and now POTUS) a racist with power.

Now he isn’t.

CanadianJudo · 2018-09-09T15:01:38.017Z

My point is Culture changes and with it symbolism.

the dude was trolling the camera, he is a Trump memes bro.

peek-a-boo · 2018-09-09T15:02:51.467Z

Bodecea:

And yet, the guy in Montana gets kicked out AND questioned by authorities for not clapping and cheering.

That’s not why he was removed.

DougBH · 2018-09-09T15:03:13.961Z

CanadianJudo:

My point is Culture changes and with it symbolism.

the dude was trolling the camera, he is a Trump memes bro.

He may have been trolling the camera. He may have been saying “its cool I’m up front here at a big rally”. Unless asked, no one knows what he meant.
“OK” is exactly the sign someone in his condition might have used in 1960.

calirepub · 2018-09-09T15:05:16.745Z

DougBH:

CanadianJudo:

So the swastika still mean peace?

The backward swastika, in parts of Asia, probably. But a few extremists on both sides of the internet are not the same as the German nation in WWII.
Sorry, you have not authorization to determine what other people mean.

Context matters.

As the ADL says:

It is important to realize that the “OK” gesture is a nearly universal hand gesture and most usage of it is completely innocuous. Even when used as described here, the fact that white supremacists, the alt lite and many Trump supporters all use the symbol means that one cannot assume that anyone who poses with such a gesture is intending or exhibiting an association with white supremacy. Only if the gesture occurs in context with other clear indicators of white supremacy can one draw that conclusion.

peek-a-boo · 2018-09-09T15:06:19.427Z

The_Original_Birther:

No, according to the OP the A-ok sign has a different congnitive now…
Continue to keep your head buried in the sand …

But you are the OP. So what you are saying is that you, as the OP, have declared the A-OK sign to be a White Power sign. and we are supposed to accept that absurdity???

You seem to be the only one with their head in the sand.

CanadianJudo · 2018-09-09T15:06:35.891Z

Its a troll they want you to call them racist so they can throw it back at you.

peek-a-boo · 2018-09-09T15:08:39.243Z

DougBH:

He may have been trolling the camera. He may have been saying “its cool I’m up front here at a big rally”. Unless asked, no one knows what he meant.
“OK” is exactly the sign someone in his condition might have used in 1960.

And no one except a dyed in the wool Trump-hater would care.

calirepub · 2018-09-09T15:09:56.870Z

CanadianJudo:

Its a troll they want you to call them racist so they can throw it back at you.

Yeah. I know. 4chan trolls make our trolls seem like reasonable people.

Guilds · 2018-09-09T15:10:09.137Z

Now?

His stripes changed since 2014? (Birtherism)

When did he denounce his comments/actions about the Central park 5?

calirepub · 2018-09-09T15:12:35.217Z

Does anyone remember when people were saying that drinking milk was code for white power?

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Nemesis · 2018-09-09T15:19:59.249Z

DougBH:

Yes. They do matter. It still means “OK”., You are not authorized to change that.

No one authorized anyone to evolve and change language but it does.

Language and communication is ever evolving. Words and symbols that were once acceptable are no longer. Words take on different meanings as does symbolism.

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-09-09T15:23:25.722Z

Oryx:

Just ignore the trolls and racists. Threads like this are exactly what they want.

For 30-40 years I’ve kind of felt that the racists were fighting a losing battle. They seen stronger than ever now though. I think we’re going in reverse.

Oryx · 2018-09-09T15:29:45.531Z

CaughtInTheMiddle:

For 30-40 years I’ve kind of felt that the racists were fighting a losing battle. They seen stronger than ever now though. I think we’re going in reverse.

It seems they feel emboldened for various reasons but I wouldn’t say we’re going in reverse. I don’t think more people are racist, I think racists are louder and perhaps getting smarter about spreading their garbage.

When the woman behind Kavanaugh at the hearing made this symbol with her hand, it seems obvious to me that she did so inadvertently. The victory for racists wasn’t her gesture, it was our reaction to it and the media attention it got.