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Cut and paste this to every “OBAMMMMMAAA” deflection.

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Even CNN had to agree that actual lethal aid was not provided to Ukraine until Trump took office.

As to agreements of our allies to increase support for NATO, again Trump. NPR. I am trying to use sources liberals will not reject offhand.

And as to our involvement in the Middle East…ok…let Democrats run on keeping us mired down in places like that. I am fine with that.

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What does it matter if it was lethal aid? It’s hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid. And training. You know, so they could fight the Russian. And I can guarantee you that the Russians thought all those counter battery radars were lethal aid since they were used to kill Russian. And you are aware that Trump’s incredibly small amount of lethal aid has not affected anything right? And they didn’t even get that for years? A few anti tank missiles and some grenades are nothing.

And NATO agreed to a plan to hit the 2% goal for defense spending under Obama in 2014. That’s just a fact. And of course Atlantic Resolve started in 2014 under Obama. Which consisted of sending thousands of additional troops to Eastern Eurpore to deter Russia in a continuing rotation. So you haven’t refuted anything. One poster said Obama did nothing. I’m just pointing out that’s absolutely no true.

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Conservatives?
Ask a few on here. They could give you an answer.

@NebraskaFootball
@Konssurvative1
@wonderingrover

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Lol - the better question would be why the Republican party suddenly has a problem with RINO’s. I mean, they nominated the ultimate RINO for president in 2016. I would think RINO’s would be really popular in the Republican party right now.

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Trump supporters have no business calling any Republican a RINO.

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He at least expelled a bunch of Diplomats and put sanctions on Russia. More than anything Obama did.

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Huh…you sure about that?

And this…

But after learning of Putin placing bounties on the heads of American soldiers in Afghanistan, and paying for their deaths, Trump did invite Putin to rejoin the G7. There is that of course.

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Claiming people regurgitate taking points is a talking point.

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There was a time…25 years ago…I considered him conservative…He’s not so much now.

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I voted for Kasich in the primary. Worst vote of my life. I’m not sure why he thinks his hatred for Trump means he must embrace socialism.

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Seriously? So you honestly believe that everyone independently comes up with exactly the same arguments? :roll_eyes:

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And not a single original thought. Mighty fine indeed.

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Your vote for trump was the worst vote in your life.

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Wrong. It was the worst vote in YOUR life. For me he has exceeded expectations. :grin:

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I’d be curious to know just how low that bar was for you. Exceeding expectations is quite the broad range.

He hasn’t even tried to adhere to the rule of law. He has abused the powers of his office. He has engaged in massive socialism wealth redistribution. He has repeatedly wiped his ass with the Constitution. He substantially raised taxes on American importers, businesses, farmers, and consumers during his trade war with China where he got completely rolled by them.

Speaking of hostile nations, China, Russia, and North Korea are all in a massively better position today than they were 4 years ago. The deficit and debt are beyond any imaginable level, and that was before COVID. Now, with COVID, we have lost over 140,000 Americans and are on pace to lose over 200,000 by October. We are on the precipice of a Great Depression with no end in sight. We have, shamefully, been cut off from traveling to Europe, Canada, and the Bahamas, among other places.

We did get some good conservative justices. So there is that. Was that the bar? Nominating conservative justices? Because if so, literally any other Republican would have done the same thing. So, what was the bar?

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Booming the economy
Lowest minority unemployment in history
Building the wall
Record number of Americans working
Obliterating ISIS
Excellent S.C. justices
Huge 401k growth
Killing the witch
Killing two of the world’s greatest terrorists
Record reduction of government regulations.

To name just a few. I hope this satisfies your “curiosity.” :blush:

Now a question for you. How low was the bar for you to support Hillary?

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But in order for them to have done so, they would have had to win. They didn’t and Trump did, so there you are.

The point you seem to keep missing is that yes, any Republican president would have similarly nominated conservative justices. But Hillary wouldn’t have. So without Trump sitting in the WH today the SCOTUS would look very different.

I thank God every day that Hillary didn’t win and I pray to God every day that Biden doesn’t win.

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:pray:t4:

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We are in a deep recession and on the verge of a massive depression. Have you been paying attention to any current events?

We have double-digit unemployment, with minority unemployment worse off than total unemployment.

He has built three…I repeat…THREE miles of wall that did not exist before he took office. But I guess you can call that a success. Woo Hoo!

Um, we have had as many as 40,000,000 out of work, and right now still have over 30,000,000 out of work. Is this sarcasm?

Not really obliterated. They still exist. But he does get credit for continuing the fight against ISIS that began under Obama and not changing the engagement and pushing them back to about as good as we can get against them. Another feather in the cap for you.

I agree that Gorsuch was a good choice. Kavanaugh is one of the worst people imaginable when it comes to 4A. But on the whole, decent choices that were picked for him by FedSoc. He did what any other Republican would’ve done. Regardless, he did it. Another positive.

I again assume this is meant as sarcasm? Obama’s growth far outpaced Trump’s growth in the market. We’ve grown some, but we also lost an entire 18-months of growth before COVID was ever a known thing. I’m not sure if this is where I’d hang my hat, but these are your expectations.

He killed someone? A witch at that? No clue who he killed. But okay.

I absolutely give him credit for this. Of course after killing Soleimani, Iran launched a full barrage of missiles at our troops, some of them are still dealing with their casualties to this day. And there was no repercussions at all for them launching a full scale attack on American bases. Which kind of defeated the point.

Okay. This is nebulous. If you can show how regulatory regulations have helped the nation, I could probably agree with these.

Hey man, it’s your expectations. Your bar, not mine. If this is what you consider exceeding expectations, then good for you. I have higher expectations, personally, for the people I throw my full support behind. But to each their own.

Simple. I opposed her as vehemently as I opposed Trump. Maybe more so even. I’ve opposed her for decades. Still do.