Any way you slice it, if he rapes another child while he is out on bail, it is partially on those who bailed him out.
Any way you slice it, if he rapes another child while he is out on bail, it is partially on those who bailed him out.
Agreed. And a big part.
TheDoctorIsIn: zantax:Of course not, if he rapes another child while out on bail they provided who could possibly blame them.
You are failing to understand the purpose of bail. It is not to keep bad people in jail.
zantax:And yes a credible accusation someone raped a child is way more than enough for me to withhold my own money to pay their bail
That is your right. It does not, however, make those who fundamentally disagree with you morally bankrupt.
Any way you slice it, if he rapes another child while he is out on bail, it is partially on those who bailed him out.
No, it isnāt. Thatās not how this works, and a very dangerous slippery slope in terms of moral culpability.
zantax: TheDoctorIsIn: zantax:Of course not, if he rapes another child while out on bail they provided who could possibly blame them.
You are failing to understand the purpose of bail. It is not to keep bad people in jail.
zantax:And yes a credible accusation someone raped a child is way more than enough for me to withhold my own money to pay their bail
That is your right. It does not, however, make those who fundamentally disagree with you morally bankrupt.
Any way you slice it, if he rapes another child while he is out on bail, it is partially on those who bailed him out.
No, it isnāt. Thatās not how this works, and a very dangerous slippery slope in terms of moral culpability.
I think anyone with a moral compass that thinks that is ok, has been keeping it in their pocket with a magnet.
TheDoctorIsIn: zantax:Of course not, if he rapes another child while out on bail they provided who could possibly blame them.
You are failing to understand the purpose of bail. It is not to keep bad people in jail.
zantax:And yes a credible accusation someone raped a child is way more than enough for me to withhold my own money to pay their bail
That is your right. It does not, however, make those who fundamentally disagree with you morally bankrupt.
Any way you slice it, if he rapes another child while he is out on bail, it is partially on those who bailed him out.
So individuals are not responsible for their own actions any more? What other situations are there where an individual is no longer responsible for their own actions? If others are partially responsible in this hypothetical, then do you also hold the Judge that granted the bail partially responsible?
zantax: TheDoctorIsIn: zantax:Of course not, if he rapes another child while out on bail they provided who could possibly blame them.
You are failing to understand the purpose of bail. It is not to keep bad people in jail.
zantax:And yes a credible accusation someone raped a child is way more than enough for me to withhold my own money to pay their bail
That is your right. It does not, however, make those who fundamentally disagree with you morally bankrupt.
Any way you slice it, if he rapes another child while he is out on bail, it is partially on those who bailed him out.
So individuals are not responsible for their own actions any more? What other situations are there where an individual is no longer responsible for their own actions? If others are partially responsible in this hypothetical, then do you also hold the Judge that granted the bail partially responsible?
We have been over this as well, yes, both the judge and the society that permits bail for that crime are also both partially responsible.
I think anyone with a moral compass that thinks that is ok, has been keeping it in their pocket with a magnet.
And you are welcome to that viewpoint. I believe that anyone whose moral compass points to the assumption of guilt is the one with a magnet in their pocket.
Our entire justice system is based around the concept that it much worse for an innocent person to be punished than it is for a guilty person to go free.
From my perspective, that is the only morally correct position.
No, it isnāt. Thatās not how this works, and a very dangerous slippery slope in terms of moral culpability.
I completely disagree. Wait! Maybe I donāt. For first offense.
NebraskaFootball: zantax: TheDoctorIsIn: zantax:Of course not, if he rapes another child while out on bail they provided who could possibly blame them.
You are failing to understand the purpose of bail. It is not to keep bad people in jail.
zantax:And yes a credible accusation someone raped a child is way more than enough for me to withhold my own money to pay their bail
That is your right. It does not, however, make those who fundamentally disagree with you morally bankrupt.
Any way you slice it, if he rapes another child while he is out on bail, it is partially on those who bailed him out.
So individuals are not responsible for their own actions any more? What other situations are there where an individual is no longer responsible for their own actions? If others are partially responsible in this hypothetical, then do you also hold the Judge that granted the bail partially responsible?
We have been over this as well, yes, both the judge and the society that permits bail for that crime are also both partially responsible.
What about gun manufacturers? Are they partially responsible when someone uses a gun to kill someone? Do you see the slope youāre on here?
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I changed it.
The contents of that post are stupid.
zantax: NebraskaFootball: zantax: TheDoctorIsIn: zantax:Of course not, if he rapes another child while out on bail they provided who could possibly blame them.
You are failing to understand the purpose of bail. It is not to keep bad people in jail.
zantax:And yes a credible accusation someone raped a child is way more than enough for me to withhold my own money to pay their bail
That is your right. It does not, however, make those who fundamentally disagree with you morally bankrupt.
Any way you slice it, if he rapes another child while he is out on bail, it is partially on those who bailed him out.
So individuals are not responsible for their own actions any more? What other situations are there where an individual is no longer responsible for their own actions? If others are partially responsible in this hypothetical, then do you also hold the Judge that granted the bail partially responsible?
We have been over this as well, yes, both the judge and the society that permits bail for that crime are also both partially responsible.
What about gun manufacturers? Are they partially responsible when someone uses a gun to kill someone? Do you see the slope youāre on here?
You canāt buy one if you are facing serious charges. Try again.
Trump should stop confessing, then.
Now, back to topic.
It was on topic. Do people who confess still get bail?
Thatās not proof of a factā¦ and they didnāt even say the same thing, Your just making an assumption. You have a theory that thereās a conspiracy afoot.
They actually did say the same thing. And now AOC is on board. Wonder where she got that idea?
You seem like a good, but naive person. You should really research the groups you support before hitching your horse.
fallenturtle:Thatās not proof of a factā¦ and they didnāt even say the same thing, Your just making an assumption. You have a theory that thereās a conspiracy afoot.
They actually did say the same thing. And now AOC is on board. Wonder where she got that idea?
You seem like a good, but naive person. You should really research the groups you support before hitching your horse.
How are āHarris Administrationā and āHarris-Biden Administrationā the same thing? Which version did AOC say?
Perhaps Iāve naive, but Iām pretty sure the way facts work is that they have to be provable and not based on assumptions. Let me know when you find someone who is part of the campaign saying Harris will be running the administration and not Biden.
In summaryā¦
Legally: Innocent before proven guilty
Morally: Guilty before proven innocent
My friendā¦itās libs that convicted Justice Kavanaugh and itās libs that practice what youāre now preaching. What Iāve said is that what this man was charged with, was an ultra-heinous crime. So much so, that the judge made his bail $75,000.00 dollars. Little did he know that the individual running for the Vice President of the United States would contribute to his bail and ask people from around the country to do the same. If I were to contribute anything to this situation, itād be for the treatment this 8 year old girl must now go through in an attempt to grasp some sort of a positive reality.
How are āHarris Administrationā and āHarris-Biden Administrationā the same thing?
You canāt be serious.
My friendā¦itās libs that convicted Justice Kavanaugh and itās libs that practice what youāre now preaching.
Whataboutism noted.
What Iāve said is that what this man was charged with, was an ultra-heinous crime. So much so, that the judge made his bail $75,000.00 dollars. Little did he know that the individual running for the Vice President of the United States would contribute to his bail and ask people from around the country to do the same. If I were to contribute anything to this situation, itād be for the treatment this 8 year old girl must now go through in an attempt to grasp some sort of a positive reality.
I donāt know which case youāre referring toā¦ but again I would place the blame on the legal system that didnāt deny bail.