You’re still doing it. Good luck with that.
Feel free to ignore my posts. I pay little attention to yours.
Feel free to ignore my posts. I pay little attention to yours.
It’s a safe strategy. The safest I’ve seen.
Yes giving low income families tax cut is socialism.
That is not even remotely what I said. I said taking from the rich with the expressed purpose to give it to the poor is socialism. “From each according to his ability; to each according to his needs.” - Karl Marx
But you knew that, didn’t you.
Why does Kamala Harris want to give away FREE MONEY?
Because it’s not hers.
zantax:Yes we know, liberals have a very difficult time grasping the nuance of “mine” and “not mine”.
No, I’ve explained your routine of your posts to you before. If you ever want to address that routine directly instead of deflecting to tangents like this, I’ll be glad to do so.
But when I tried the last time, you stopped replying, so my guess is the answer is a firm no.
And your routine is to make the threads about the poster and not about the subject of the thread. My advice, stop. Enjoy the discussion at hand. If you can’t defend your position and have to resort to characterizing someone’s posting habits, it’s probably time to bow out gracefully.
how about we just skip the middle man and provide the service at a price based on the ability to pay?
how about if they can’t afford both their home and insurance, move to a place where you can afford both? You know…like everybody else has had to do up until Kamala’s suggestion to simply garner votes?
CanadianJudo:Yes giving low income families tax cut is socialism.
That is not even remotely what I said. I said taking from the rich with the expressed purpose to give it to the poor is socialism. “From each according to his ability; to each according to his needs.” - Karl Marx
But you knew that, didn’t you.
No its not.
MichaelScarn:how about we just skip the middle man and provide the service at a price based on the ability to pay?
how about if they can’t afford both their home and insurance, move to a place where you can afford both? You know…like everybody else has had to do up until Kamala’s suggestion to simply garner votes?
If they can’t afford those then how can they afford to move?
If they can’t afford those then how can they afford to move?
It’s simple…“just do it”.
mobulis:If they can’t afford those then how can they afford to move?
It’s simple…“just do it”.
Just leave all their stuff?
Samm: CanadianJudo:Yes giving low income families tax cut is socialism.
That is not even remotely what I said. I said taking from the rich with the expressed purpose to give it to the poor is socialism. “From each according to his ability; to each according to his needs.” - Karl Marx
But you knew that, didn’t you.
No its not.
Karl Marx disagrees wth you.
mobulis: Samm: CanadianJudo:Yes giving low income families tax cut is socialism.
That is not even remotely what I said. I said taking from the rich with the expressed purpose to give it to the poor is socialism. “From each according to his ability; to each according to his needs.” - Karl Marx
But you knew that, didn’t you.
No its not.
Karl Marx disagrees wth you.
No he doesn’t, in Marxism there is no state.
Samm: mobulis: Samm: CanadianJudo:Yes giving low income families tax cut is socialism.
That is not even remotely what I said. I said taking from the rich with the expressed purpose to give it to the poor is socialism. “From each according to his ability; to each according to his needs.” - Karl Marx
But you knew that, didn’t you.
No its not.
Karl Marx disagrees wth you.
No he doesn’t, in Marxism there is no state.
Karl Marx disagrees with you.
mobulis: Samm: mobulis: Samm: CanadianJudo:Yes giving low income families tax cut is socialism.
That is not even remotely what I said. I said taking from the rich with the expressed purpose to give it to the poor is socialism. “From each according to his ability; to each according to his needs.” - Karl Marx
But you knew that, didn’t you.
No its not.
Karl Marx disagrees wth you.
No he doesn’t, in Marxism there is no state.
Karl Marx disagrees with you.
No he doesn’t, in Marxism there is no state.
I like where this conversation is going.
Samm: mobulis: Samm: mobulis: Samm: CanadianJudo:Yes giving low income families tax cut is socialism.
That is not even remotely what I said. I said taking from the rich with the expressed purpose to give it to the poor is socialism. “From each according to his ability; to each according to his needs.” - Karl Marx
But you knew that, didn’t you.
No its not.
Karl Marx disagrees wth you.
No he doesn’t, in Marxism there is no state.
Karl Marx disagrees with you.
No he doesn’t, in Marxism there is no state.
So how do you interpret his statement which I quoted above? How does one take from those with ability and give to those without unless there is a State?
mobulis: Samm: mobulis: Samm: mobulis: Samm: CanadianJudo:Yes giving low income families tax cut is socialism.
That is not even remotely what I said. I said taking from the rich with the expressed purpose to give it to the poor is socialism. “From each according to his ability; to each according to his needs.” - Karl Marx
But you knew that, didn’t you.
No its not.
Karl Marx disagrees wth you.
No he doesn’t, in Marxism there is no state.
Karl Marx disagrees with you.
No he doesn’t, in Marxism there is no state.
So how do you interpret his statement which I quoted above? How does one take from those with ability and give to those without unless there is a State?
From wiki
According to Marxist theory, class conflict arises in capitalist societies due to contradictions between the material interests of the oppressed proletariat—a class of wage labourers employed by the bourgeoisie to produce goods and services—and the bourgeoisie—the ruling class that owns the means of production and extract their wealth through appropriation of the surplus product (profit) produced by the proletariat.
This class struggle that is commonly expressed as the revolt of a society’s productive forces against its relations of production, results in a period of short-term crises as the bourgeoisie struggle to manage the intensifying alienation of labor experienced by the proletariat, albeit with varying degrees of class consciousness. This crisis culminates in a proletarian revolution and eventually leads to the establishment of socialism—a socioeconomic system based on social ownership of the means of production, distribution based on one’s contribution and production organized directly for use. As the productive forces continued to advance, **Marx hypothesized that socialism would ultimately transform into a communist society; a classless, stateless, humane society based on common ownership and the underlying principle: “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”. **
Samm: mobulis: Samm: mobulis: Samm: mobulis: Samm: CanadianJudo:Yes giving low income families tax cut is socialism.
That is not even remotely what I said. I said taking from the rich with the expressed purpose to give it to the poor is socialism. “From each according to his ability; to each according to his needs.” - Karl Marx
But you knew that, didn’t you.
No its not.
Karl Marx disagrees wth you.
No he doesn’t, in Marxism there is no state.
Karl Marx disagrees with you.
No he doesn’t, in Marxism there is no state.
So how do you interpret his statement which I quoted above? How does one take from those with ability and give to those without unless there is a State?
From wiki
According to Marxist theory, class conflict arises in capitalist societies due to contradictions between the material interests of the oppressed proletariat—a class of wage labourers employed by the bourgeoisie to produce goods and services—and the bourgeoisie—the ruling class that owns the means of production and extract their wealth through appropriation of the surplus product (profit) produced by the proletariat.
This class struggle that is commonly expressed as the revolt of a society’s productive forces against its relations of production, results in a period of short-term crises as the bourgeoisie struggle to manage the intensifying alienation of labor experienced by the proletariat, albeit with varying degrees of class consciousness. This crisis culminates in a proletarian revolution and eventually leads to the establishment of socialism—a socioeconomic system based on social ownership of the means of production, distribution based on one’s contribution and production organized directly for use. As the productive forces continued to advance, **Marx hypothesized that socialism would ultimately transform into a communist society; a classless, stateless, humane society based on common ownership and the underlying principle: “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”. **
Read that last paragraph again … “Marx hypothesized that socialism would ultimately transform into a communist society.”
In other words, he believed the State would eventually evolve into pure communism, not that he believed the State did not exist under socialism.