Kamala Harris must live in a Bubble

biggestal99 · 2020-09-24T17:43:38.035Z

Cratic3947:

Venezuela is Leftist fascism now… Poverty and hunger is what the left brings.

Okay. And this is America. Not Venezuela.

Allan

Cratic3947 · 2020-09-25T16:28:49.913Z

Yes, but Venezuela was prosperous and a democratic republic like America. Now it’s a leftist fascist hell hole, and the leftist riots scare people who escaped Venezuela, because it’s looks like it’s happening her to them. It would be like having a national socialist show up at jewish restaurant during WW2…

I bet Kammy is so ill informed she has no clue what’s venezuela like, and like you wants to pretend this could not happen here.

fallenturtle · 2020-09-25T17:13:51.740Z

Cratic3947:

Yes, but Venezuela was prosperous and a democratic republic like America. Now it’s a leftist fascist hell hole, and the leftist riots scare people who escaped Venezuela, because it’s looks like it’s happening her to them. It would be like having a national socialist show up at jewish restaurant during WW2…

I bet Kammy is so ill informed she has no clue what’s venezuela like, and like you wants to pretend this could not happen here.

They’d have to be pretty ignorant to think that the DNC wants or plans to institute policies that would make the US like Venezuela. If they are that ignorant then it really is important for Harris to reach out to assure them that the DNC isn’t planning to nationalize the oil industry or rewrite the constitution so that the president can become president for life.

Cratic3947 · 2020-09-25T17:22:29.855Z

fallenturtle:

Cratic3947:

Yes, but Venezuela was prosperous and a democratic republic like America. Now it’s a leftist fascist hell hole, and the leftist riots scare people who escaped Venezuela, because it’s looks like it’s happening her to them. It would be like having a national socialist show up at jewish restaurant during WW2…

I bet Kammy is so ill informed she has no clue what’s venezuela like, and like you wants to pretend this could not happen here.

They’d have to be pretty ignorant to think that the DNC wants or plans to institute policies that would make the US like Venezuela. If they are that ignorant then it really is important for Harris to reach out to assure them that the DNC isn’t planning to nationalize the oil industry or rewrite the constitution so that the president can become president for life.

You think the way Venezuela went from prosperity and relative freedom to leftist fascism and starvation was planned by leftists?

I think they implemented policy that failed and then blamed the right and increased persecution because they can’t believe their policy fails… And that’s what would happen here. Dems already use words like “irredeemable”. That does not sound like they are open minded…

fallenturtle · 2020-09-25T17:35:00.676Z

Cratic3947:

fallenturtle:

Cratic3947:

Yes, but Venezuela was prosperous and a democratic republic like America. Now it’s a leftist fascist hell hole, and the leftist riots scare people who escaped Venezuela, because it’s looks like it’s happening her to them. It would be like having a national socialist show up at jewish restaurant during WW2…

I bet Kammy is so ill informed she has no clue what’s venezuela like, and like you wants to pretend this could not happen here.

They’d have to be pretty ignorant to think that the DNC wants or plans to institute policies that would make the US like Venezuela. If they are that ignorant then it really is important for Harris to reach out to assure them that the DNC isn’t planning to nationalize the oil industry or rewrite the constitution so that the president can become president for life.

You think the way Venezuela went from prosperity and relative freedom to leftist fascism and starvation was planned by leftists?

I think they implemented policy that failed and then blamed the right and increased persecution because they can’t believe their policy fails… And that’s what would happen here. Dems already use words like “irredeemable”. That does not sound like they are open minded…

No… but that’s irrelevant because Biden/Harris aren’t pushing to enact the policies like what was enacted in Venezuela. There is no plan to nationalize the oil industry, there’s no plan to massively ramp of social spending using money from a single volatile industry, there’s no plan to amend the Constitution so as to consolidate power into the hands of the Biden/Harris administration.

markdido · 2020-09-25T17:37:45.419Z

fallenturtle:

Cratic3947:

Yes, but Venezuela was prosperous and a democratic republic like America. Now it’s a leftist fascist hell hole, and the leftist riots scare people who escaped Venezuela, because it’s looks like it’s happening her to them. It would be like having a national socialist show up at jewish restaurant during WW2…

I bet Kammy is so ill informed she has no clue what’s venezuela like, and like you wants to pretend this could not happen here.

They’d have to be pretty ignorant to think that the DNC wants or plans to institute policies that would make the US like Venezuela. If they are that ignorant then it really is important for Harris to reach out to assure them that the DNC isn’t planning to nationalize the oil industry or rewrite the constitution so that the president can become president for life.

Defunding and delegitimizing the police is a good start.

Cratic3947 · 2020-09-25T17:40:34.438Z

Obama didn’t run on Obama care, but it was almost the first thing he did.

Medical fascism…

and I bet you can’t even name one policy Biden is pushing…

biggestal99 · 2020-09-25T17:43:41.532Z

Cratic3947:

Obama didn’t run on Obama care, but it was almost the first thing he did.

Medical fascism…

and I bet you can’t even name one policy Biden is pushing…

Insuring the uninsured.

That’s a terrible idea.

I surprised it even passed.

Allan

fallenturtle · 2020-09-25T17:50:37.339Z

markdido:

fallenturtle:

Cratic3947:

Yes, but Venezuela was prosperous and a democratic republic like America. Now it’s a leftist fascist hell hole, and the leftist riots scare people who escaped Venezuela, because it’s looks like it’s happening her to them. It would be like having a national socialist show up at jewish restaurant during WW2…

I bet Kammy is so ill informed she has no clue what’s venezuela like, and like you wants to pretend this could not happen here.

They’d have to be pretty ignorant to think that the DNC wants or plans to institute policies that would make the US like Venezuela. If they are that ignorant then it really is important for Harris to reach out to assure them that the DNC isn’t planning to nationalize the oil industry or rewrite the constitution so that the president can become president for life.

Defunding and delegitimizing the police is a good start.

You’re really grasping at straws here. Is criminal justice reform the top of the slippery slope towards nationalizing the oil industry?

fallenturtle · 2020-09-25T17:53:36.308Z

Cratic3947:

Obama didn’t run on Obama care, but it was almost the first thing he did.

Are you kidding me? Healthcare reform was a major campaign issue in 2008.

Medical fascism…

Is what exactly?

and I bet you can’t even name one policy Biden is pushing…

He’s got a whole website filled with them:
https://joebiden.com/joes-vision/

biggestal99 · 2020-09-25T18:05:36.317Z

Cratic3947:

Obama didn’t run on Obama care, but it was almost the first thing he did.

Medical fascism…

and I bet you can’t even name one policy Biden is pushing

A path to citizenship for DACA people.

Allan

Paul_Thomson · 2020-09-26T04:31:38.578Z

fallenturtle:

there’s no plan to amend the Constitution so as to consolidate power into the hands of the Biden/Harris administration.

Packing the courts with activist leftist judges; adding Puerto Rico and DC as states to skew the EC, or abolishing the EC altogether; giving felons and illegal immigrants the vote; ban conservative speech as hate speech or dangerous disinformation; using Covid19 and the next iteration as a pretext to impose draconian restrictions on citizens’ movement, speech and right to assemble; confiscating weapons of defense against unconstitutional government overreach.

Sure. No plan.

fallenturtle · 2020-09-26T07:50:50.704Z

Paul_Thomson:

Packing the courts with activist leftist judges

There’s no plan for this, its only been mentioned and is probably not likely. And even if it does happen the right, assuming they win again, can always fill future vacancies with conservatives.

What do you think about the House dems proposal for SC term limits?

Paul_Thomson:

adding Puerto Rico and DC as states to skew the EC

Republicans could always try to get people in PR and DC to want to vote them.

Paul_Thomson:

or abolishing the EC altogether

You don’t think the GOP will ever win the popular vote again?

Paul_Thomson:

giving felons and illegal immigrants the vote

Why would the right rather restrict groups from voting instead of trying to get them to want to vote for the GOP?

Illegal immigrants aren’t getting the vote beyond maybe some local school boards.

Paul_Thomson:

ban conservative speech as hate speech or dangerous disinformation

There are no plans for that.

Paul_Thomson:

using Covid19 and the next iteration as a pretext to impose draconian restrictions on citizens’ movement, speech and right to assemble

Stopping the spread of highly infectious diseases is a good thing. It has not led to anyone’s speech being restricted.

Paul_Thomson:

confiscating weapons of defense against unconstitutional government overreach

Not being able to buy certain types of guns isn’t going to help them consolidate power.

In summary, there’s no plan to consolidate power into the hands of the Biden/Harris administration.

Camp · 2020-09-26T08:36:19.257Z

The rhetoric is a carbon copy.

The rest must follow after all the promises are made and failed.

FloridaYankee · 2020-09-26T12:09:06.029Z

markdido:

fallenturtle:

Cratic3947:

Yes, but Venezuela was prosperous and a democratic republic like America. Now it’s a leftist fascist hell hole, and the leftist riots scare people who escaped Venezuela, because it’s looks like it’s happening her to them. It would be like having a national socialist show up at jewish restaurant during WW2…

I bet Kammy is so ill informed she has no clue what’s venezuela like, and like you wants to pretend this could not happen here.

They’d have to be pretty ignorant to think that the DNC wants or plans to institute policies that would make the US like Venezuela. If they are that ignorant then it really is important for Harris to reach out to assure them that the DNC isn’t planning to nationalize the oil industry or rewrite the constitution so that the president can become president for life.

Defunding and delegitimizing the police is a good start.

That is the complete opposite of what Hugo Chavez did when he basically started the downfall of Venezuela.

fallenturtle · 2020-09-26T19:23:43.755Z

Camp:

The rhetoric is a carbon copy.

The rest must follow after all the promises are made and failed.

If its a carbon copy then you should be able to provide the original. I’ll wait.

Guvnah · 2020-09-26T19:27:32.401Z

Cratic3947:

Perhaps you’d like this source better…

Attack the messenger. A typical tactic of libs. Whatchagonnado?

Camp · 2020-09-26T19:53:53.382Z

You are being too literal.

Empty promises…that is all socialist governance offers.

In a republic…we can rely on our own promise and understand our representative only offers empty selfish promise.

Then along comes Trump and he actually delivers.

The promises are the failings.

fallenturtle · 2020-09-26T20:02:43.322Z

Camp:

You are being too literal.

Empty promises…that is all socialist governance offers.

In a republic…we can rely on our own promise and understand our representative only offers empty selfish promise.

Then what does this have to do with Biden/Harris? They aren’t calling to nationalize anything.

Camp:

Then along comes Trump and he actually delivers.

Still waiting on his health care proposal and for Hillary to be locked up.

Camp · 2020-09-26T20:06:45.105Z

Sure they are.

Health care…Student loans…