Justice Department is seeking to dismiss case against Michael Flynn

[Ben_Natuf]

you are dead wrong about that. amicus are filed by persons/orgs who have an interest in the case. not by those who don’t.

An amicus curiae brief is a persuasive legal document filed by a person or entity in a case, usually while the case is on appeal, in which it is not a party but has an interest in the outcome

Should I File an Amicus Curiae Brief? - Bona Law

[NickN]

@Ben_Natuf

you are dead wrong about that. amicus are filed by persons/orgs who have an interest in the case.

Definition of “amicus”:

a·mi·cus

/əˈmēkəs,əˈmī-/

[

noun

noun: amicus curiae

1. an impartial adviser, often voluntary, to a court of law in a particular case.

"he was planning to advance this position in an amicus brief "

[Ben_Natuf]

@NickN

"he was planning to advance this position in an amicus brief "

i don’t care what the dictionary says. impartial advisors do not work at “advancing a position”, advocates do. Amicus are filed by persons/orgs nor a party to a case who nevertheless have an interest in its outcome. They are advocates, not impartial observers.

[WuWei]

@NickN

@WuWei

Glad we could agree.

Sullivan “can” sentence him.

If Sullivan does in fact impose a sentence that’s where it could open the door for him to be impeached too…

For what?

[NickN]

@WuWei

For what?

Although not convicted, Samuel Chase was impeached on grounds of letting his partisan leanings affect his decisions in court. Likewise Sullivan might be daring the Republicans to impeach him understanding 2/3 of Senators need to vote guilty which clearly will not be happening under most any circumstances even if Trump is re-elected and control of the House changes too.

[Safiel]

Nobody is getting impeached.

Nothing Sullivan did comes close to the mischief that Manuel Real spun over 50 years and Stephen Reinhardt spun for close to 40 years.

[NickN]

@Safiel

Nobody is getting impeached.

Nothing Sullivan did comes close to the mischief that Manuel Real spun over 50 years and Stephen Reinhardt spun for close to 40 years.

A perfect storm emerged for Democrats with how to impeach Trump.

This political exercise is the new norm no matter who controls the House going forward.

And my guess is not only for Presidents but judges too…

[Safiel]

@NickN

@Safiel

Nobody is getting impeached.

Nothing Sullivan did comes close to the mischief that Manuel Real spun over 50 years and Stephen Reinhardt spun for close to 40 years.

A perfect storm emerged for Democrats with how to impeach Trump.

This political exercise is the new norm no matter who controls the House going forward.

And my guess is not only for Presidents but judges too…

Impeachment takes valuable time and resources. A President might be worth it for a sham impeachment. A Judge is not worth it.

The only recent plausible impeachment possibility for a Judge was Murguia and he resigned voluntarily.

[WuWei]

@NickN

@WuWei

For what?

Although not convicted, Samuel Chase was impeached on grounds of letting his partisan leanings affect his decisions in court. Likewise Sullivan might be daring the Republicans to impeach him understanding 2/3 of Senators need to vote guilty which clearly will not be happening under most any circumstances even if Trump is re-elected and control of the House changes too.

I don’t think Chase is what you want to hang your hat on.

[TheDoctorIsIn]

@NickN

Although not convicted, Samuel Chase was impeached on grounds of letting his partisan leanings affect his decisions in court. Likewise Sullivan might be daring the Republicans to impeach him understanding 2/3 of Senators need to vote guilty which clearly will not be happening under most any circumstances even if Trump is re-elected and control of the House changes too.

Samuel Chase was impeached in 1803. The failure of that impeachment is generally considered to have established the precedent that judges won’t be impeached absent convincing, non-philosophical reasons.

[WuWei]

@TheDoctorIsIn

@NickN

Although not convicted, Samuel Chase was impeached on grounds of letting his partisan leanings affect his decisions in court. Likewise Sullivan might be daring the Republicans to impeach him understanding 2/3 of Senators need to vote guilty which clearly will not be happening under most any circumstances even if Trump is re-elected and control of the House changes too.

Samuel Chase was impeached in 1803. The failure of that impeachment is generally considered to have established the precedent that judges won’t be impeached absent convincing, non-philosophical reasons.

Hence not hanging your hat.

[TheDoctorIsIn]

Indeed.

[NickN]

@Safiel

Impeachment takes valuable time and resources. A President might be worth it for a sham impeachment. A Judge is not worth it.

Since when has time and money been a detriment? Even a special counsel in Mueller cost $30-$40 million and went absolutely no where. That being said, control of the House makes impeachment an abuse of power tool. Less likely for a judge I agree, however never say never.

[NickN]

@WildRose

ullivan needs to consider retirement.

His confessions were coerced therefore he could not have perjured himself.

Am hearing now that Flynn in accepting plea deal mentioned the following:

1. on the court record was Flynn saying he accepted deal so the potential/efforts to prosecute his son would end and;
2. the 302 interview document does not ever mention the word “sanctions” in questioning Flynn, yet the FBI said the actual lie he plead guilty was about levying Russians sanctions.

[WuWei]

Good gouge if accurate.

[DougBH]

@NickN

@Safiel

Nobody is getting impeached.

Nothing Sullivan did comes close to the mischief that Manuel Real spun over 50 years and Stephen Reinhardt spun for close to 40 years.

A perfect storm emerged for Democrats with how to impeach Trump.

This political exercise is the new norm no matter who controls the House going forward.

And my guess is not only for Presidents but judges too…

It looked stupid then and it would look stupid to do something like it again.

[NickN]

@DougBH

It looked stupid then and it would look stupid to do something like it again.

The next election will determine if the Trump impeachment looks stupid or not.

[WuWei]

Sullivan will likely rule by the end of the week.

[Ben_Natuf]

or perhaps this impeachment will determine whether or not impeachment looks stupid or not

Dems tell Supreme Court of 'ongoing' new impeachment inquiry in effort to...

[NickN]

@WuWei

Sullivan will likely rule by the end of the week.

Gleeson said he intends to advise Sullivan by June 10th…