What’s silly about more people buying stuff to stimulate the GDP?
Allan
What’s silly about more people buying stuff to stimulate the GDP?
Allan
Not true. The majority disappear and never appear at their hearing because they have no legal right to be here.
We have never been good at kicking most out.
Those two things are not related.
Another falsehood dispelled.
92% show up for their hearing (aka people want to stay here legally)
Allan
And one can find sources to dispute that:
Here’s a chart for in absentia rates for immigration cases.
See the last row asylum.
11% in fiscal 2017.
Allan
Bottom line asylum seekers show up for court.
There is no disputing the facts I have presented.
Allan
What I have found regarding the immigration debate is that often the so-called “facts” absolutely can be disputed:
“Did 98.7 Percent of Non-Detained Asylum Seekers Really Attend All of Their Asylum Hearings?” Did 98.7 Percent of Non-Detained Asylum Seekers Really Attend All of Their Asylum Hearings?
In absentia rates cannot be disputed.
They are facts.
The overwhelming majority of asylum cases are decided not in absentia.
Allan
Nonsense. First off, it is not legal unless they come through an official entry point. All of those migrants who turn themselves in to the border patrol cross at unofficial points thus are illegal. But more on point, they know before they cross the border that any claim for asylum will be taken as valid on face value with no proof beyond their word. The vast majority of the illegal migrants are here for economic reasons, which is NOT a valid reason for asylum.
biggestal99:I was thinking GDP.
Allan
The more people buying stuff the higher the GDP.
Not when they are using taxpayer money to make their purchases.
Do you have a source for that chart? This is the actual government figure as reported. It looks to me like about half of cases are decided inabsentia.
Rodeo:That’s just silly.
What’s silly about more people buying stuff to stimulate the GDP?
What is silly is giving them my money (and presumably yours) to buy things when they themselves produce nothing.
biggestal99: Rodeo:That’s just silly.
What’s silly about more people buying stuff to stimulate the GDP?
What is silly is giving them my money (and presumably yours) to buy things when they themselves produce nothing.
Frankly, if people being given government money and buying things increases GDP, then just give it to current citizens and we can spend it.
Eagle-Keeper:What I have found regarding the immigration debate is that often the so-called “facts” absolutely can be disputed:
In absentia rates cannot be disputed.
They are facts.
The overwhelming majority of asylum cases are decided not in absentia.
Allan
I dispute them.
Nonsense. First off, it is not legal unless they come through an official entry point.
Not true. You can be in the us illegally and still apply for asylum within certain time parameters.
Allan
I dispute them.
Those are removal orders not asylum hearings.
89% appear at asylum hearings.
Apples and oranges.
I am talking specifically about asylum hearings.
Allan
Frankly, if people being given government money and buying things increases GDP, then just give it to current citizens and we can spend it.
Biden and trump already did that.
Allan
Did 98.7 Percent of Non-Detained Asylum Seekers Really Attend All of Their Asylum Hearings?” Did 98.7 Percent of Non-Detained Asylum Seekers Really Attend All of Their Asylum Hearings?
Thank you for that.