Judicial Watch Update on the IRS oppression of speech

rolltide · 2018-08-29T20:53:20.068Z

The IRS “scandal” is a perfect example of how misled, disingenuous and dishonest Trump supporters really are.

At NO point was anyone’s speech suppressed. Whenever you hear someone state that, they are lying through their teeth.

Liberal and conservative groups with hyper-partisan names were given extra scrutiny when filing for tax exempt status, as they should’ve been. Totally reasonable profiling that at NO POINT interfered with ANY organizations ability to operate and exercise free speech.

But Trump supporters, perhaps due to dishonesty or just plan ol’ stupidity, keep banging this drum.

rolltide · 2018-08-29T20:57:22.681Z

Trump was eyeballs-deep in the swamp in the business world. What made his idiot supporters think he wouldn’t be eyeballs-deep in the political swamp? He has created the nastiest swamp around and his fanboys think it’s glorious! LOL

Cratic3947 · 2018-08-29T22:36:13.986Z

rolltide:

The IRS “scandal” is a perfect example of how misled, disingenuous and dishonest Trump supporters really are.

At NO point was anyone’s speech suppressed. Whenever you hear someone state that, they are lying through their teeth.

Liberal and conservative groups with hyper-partisan names were given extra scrutiny when filing for tax exempt status, as they should’ve been. Totally reasonable profiling that at NO POINT interfered with ANY organizations ability to operate and exercise free speech.

But Trump supporters, perhaps due to dishonesty or just plan ol’ stupidity, keep banging this drum.

Why did they lose so many E-mails? Why were 95% of those held up Republican?

Cratic3947 · 2018-08-29T22:37:41.845Z

rolltide:

Trump was eyeballs-deep in the swamp in the business world. What made his idiot supporters think he wouldn’t be eyeballs-deep in the political swamp? He has created the nastiest swamp around and his fanboys think it’s glorious! LOL

Is that the swamp is trying to impeach him without any proof?

Cratic3947 · 2018-08-29T22:45:15.364Z

Too bad no one went to jail… 500 more rep orgs and Romney’s ground game may have reflected the polls…

“The IRS admits that its treatment of Plaintiffs during the tax-exempt determinations process, including screening their applications based on their names or policy positions, subjecting those applications to heightened scrutiny and inordinate delays, and demanding of some Plaintiffs’ information that TIGTA (Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration) determined was unnecessary to the agency’s determination of their tax-exempt status, was wrong,” the IRS’ consent order read.

LifeZette – 8 Aug 18

Court Lets Judicial Watch Seek Unsealing of IRS Officials Lerner, Paz...

Here's the next step in the transparency needed to get the whole truth about the tax agency's illegal targeting

rone5847 · 2018-08-29T22:45:44.961Z

theirs makes the new England mafia look like choir boys

kingarthur65 · 2018-08-29T22:46:09.618Z

Cratic3947:

Why did they lose so many E-mails? Why were 95% of those held up Republican?

Because Obama told them to… right?

Oh wait! Maybe it was someone from McCain’s staff.

Cratic3947 · 2018-08-29T22:48:04.795Z

kingarthur65:

Cratic3947:

Why did they lose so many E-mails? Why were 95% of those held up Republican?

Because Obama told them to… right?

Oh wait! Maybe it was someone from McCain’s staff.

They knew Lerner was corrupt and partisan from her days at the FEC…

kingarthur65 · 2018-08-29T22:55:26.904Z

Cratic3947:

Why did they lose so many E-mails? Why were 95% of those held up Republican?

Because Obama told them to… right?

Oh wait! Maybe it was someone from McCain’s staff.

They knew Lerner was corrupt and partisan from her days at the FEC…

Who knew? McCain?

rolltide · 2018-08-30T16:47:45.421Z

Must’ve gotten those e-mails lost with the 33 MILLION lost by the Bush admin that you couldn’t have cared less about. And why 95%? Are you under the false assumption that both sides were equally trying to falsely claim tax exempt status? That’s like assuming there should be an exact percent of blacks in prison correlating with the same percent that are in the population at large. Don’t work that way sparky! You’re as bad as libs with that thinking.

Cratic3947 · 2018-08-30T16:48:42.552Z

kingarthur65:

Cratic3947:

Why did they lose so many E-mails? Why were 95% of those held up Republican?

Because Obama told them to… right?

Oh wait! Maybe it was someone from McCain’s staff.

They knew Lerner was corrupt and partisan from her days at the FEC…

Who knew? McCain?

The Obama admin knew her past when they hired her for the IRS…

Cratic3947 · 2018-08-30T16:56:53.848Z

rolltide:

Must’ve gotten those e-mails lost with the 33 MILLION lost by the Bush admin that you couldn’t have cared less about. And why 95%? Are you under the false assumption that both sides were equally trying to falsely claim tax exempt status? That’s like assuming there should be an exact percent of blacks in prison correlating with the same percent that are in the population at large. Don’t work that way sparky! You’re as bad as libs with that thinking.

500 rep orgs to about 8 lib orgs being held up by the IRS is statistically impossible to happen without massive biased…

Borgia · 2018-08-30T17:05:14.026Z

Cratic3947:

500 rep orgs to about 8 lib orgs being held up by the IRS is statistically impossible to happen without massive biased…

I’m not sure that number is accurate. Regardless, with the rise of tea parties throughout the states there were a lot of conservative groups forming up. Probably a lot more than liberal groups at the time.

Just an observation in response to you. Doesn’t exonerate the IRS here.

Cratic3947 · 2018-08-30T18:02:33.890Z

Borgia_dude_dude:

Cratic3947:

500 rep orgs to about 8 lib orgs being held up by the IRS is statistically impossible to happen without massive biased…

I’m not sure that number is accurate. Regardless, with the rise of tea parties throughout the states there were a lot of conservative groups forming up. Probably a lot more than liberal groups at the time.

Just an observation in response to you. Doesn’t exonerate the IRS here.

I’m not surprise you would be confused, as the media works hard to confuse people. It was under reported initially.

The IRS paid off 427 groups of recently.

You have to work real hard on Google to find the number of lib groups held up by the IRS for “extra scrutiny”, as it was very few, but all articles mention it as thought it was in some way equivalent which is was not even close.

kingarthur65 · 2018-08-30T18:14:19.518Z

Cratic3947:

I’m not surprise you would be confused, as the media works hard to confuse people. It was under reported initially.

The IRS paid off 427 groups of recently.

You have to work real hard on Google to find the number of lib groups held up by the IRS for “extra scrutiny”, as it was very few, but all articles mention it as thought it was in some way equivalent which is was not even close.

The Dems didn’t have nearly as many of these groups as the Rs. The ones they did have, did not contain the keywords that were used by the Rs. There is no doubt that the Tea Party and R groups were targeted, but the conspiracy theory that was being pushed and still is today did not exist. Many people wanted to prove that Obama had ordered this or this was some directive from the Administration. When you look into it, the idea was suggested by a McCain staffer.

Borgia · 2018-08-30T18:14:48.986Z

Ok. I’d be interested in the numbers from each side.

With the birth of the Tea Party I’m pretty sure there would have been a lot more request coming from new conservative groups seeking tax exempt status than from liberal groups.

Cratic3947 · 2018-08-30T18:21:51.237Z

kingarthur65:

Cratic3947:

I’m not surprise you would be confused, as the media works hard to confuse people. It was under reported initially.

The IRS paid off 427 groups of recently.

You have to work real hard on Google to find the number of lib groups held up by the IRS for “extra scrutiny”, as it was very few, but all articles mention it as thought it was in some way equivalent which is was not even close.

The Dems didn’t have nearly as many of these groups as the Rs. The ones they did have, did not contain the keywords that were used by the Rs. There is no doubt that the Tea Party and R groups were targeted, but the conspiracy theory that was being pushed and still is today did not exist. Many people wanted to prove that Obama had ordered this or this was some directive from the Administration. When you look into it, the idea was suggested by a McCain staffer.

Yes, McCain’s staff seems to be in it too. But, Obama would not have to tell Lerner, anything. She knows what to do…

kingarthur65 · 2018-08-30T18:25:26.792Z

Cratic3947:

I’m not surprise you would be confused, as the media works hard to confuse people. It was under reported initially.

The IRS paid off 427 groups of recently.

You have to work real hard on Google to find the number of lib groups held up by the IRS for “extra scrutiny”, as it was very few, but all articles mention it as thought it was in some way equivalent which is was not even close.

The Dems didn’t have nearly as many of these groups as the Rs. The ones they did have, did not contain the keywords that were used by the Rs. There is no doubt that the Tea Party and R groups were targeted, but the conspiracy theory that was being pushed and still is today did not exist. Many people wanted to prove that Obama had ordered this or this was some directive from the Administration. When you look into it, the idea was suggested by a McCain staffer.

Yes, McCain’s staff seems to be in it too. But, Obama would not have to tell Lerner, anything. She knows what to do…

Are you trying to say this program was an unspoken agreement between Obama and Lerner?

Cratic3947 · 2018-08-30T18:31:03.456Z

kingarthur65:

Cratic3947:

I’m not surprise you would be confused, as the media works hard to confuse people. It was under reported initially.

The IRS paid off 427 groups of recently.

You have to work real hard on Google to find the number of lib groups held up by the IRS for “extra scrutiny”, as it was very few, but all articles mention it as thought it was in some way equivalent which is was not even close.

The Dems didn’t have nearly as many of these groups as the Rs. The ones they did have, did not contain the keywords that were used by the Rs. There is no doubt that the Tea Party and R groups were targeted, but the conspiracy theory that was being pushed and still is today did not exist. Many people wanted to prove that Obama had ordered this or this was some directive from the Administration. When you look into it, the idea was suggested by a McCain staffer.

Yes, McCain’s staff seems to be in it too. But, Obama would not have to tell Lerner, anything. She knows what to do…

Are you trying to say this program was an unspoken agreement between Obama and Lerner?

Certainly… That’s why they put her there after she was known doing the same type of thing at the FEC…

party-free · 2018-08-30T18:45:36.546Z

Cratic3947:

The IRS paid off 427 groups of recently.

Trump’s IRS did. Let’s be clear about that.