Judge's sweeping order strikes down all Alabama anti-abortion laws

Chris · 2019-10-30T14:45:04.479Z

Roxiebelle:

60 million babies aborted since Roe v Wade, something you guys ignore.

Most abortions are performed during the first trimester. Anyway, I don’t completely agree with Roe v. Wade since I be that states should be able to ban abortions after the first trimester. And I disagree with most of the Democrats running for President that the Hyde Amendment should be repealed. The Hyde Amendment should stay in place.

gooddad409 · 2019-10-30T14:45:50.845Z

Safiel:

https://www.cnn.com/2014/08/05/justice/alabama-abortion-federal-court-ruling/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

I do like him invoking the right to keep and bear arms in comparison to the right to choose an abortion.

I would be deliriously happy if the left and the right reached the following agreement:

The left keeps its ******* hands off of guns and the right keeps its ******* hands off of uteruses.

The obvious problem is that abortion is murder. That cannot and should not be ignored.

gooddad409 · 2019-10-30T14:46:40.268Z

SixFoot:

Quick! Now’s your chance to kill your unborn child!

Quick murder them while you can.

Roxiebelle · 2019-10-30T14:48:09.281Z

Safiel:

You do realize that this is intended as a vehicle for overturning Roe v Wade

Well progressive liberals have pushed abortion to the limits of humanity so maybe it’s time to overturn Roe v Wade.

AP News – 14 Sep 19

Over 2,000 fetal remains found at ex-abortion doctor's home

JOLIET, Ill. (AP) — More than 2,000 medically preserved fetal remains have been found at the Illinois home of a former Indiana abortion clinic doctor who died last week, authorities said.

SixFoot · 2019-10-30T14:48:32.580Z

The least they could do while celebrating the right to murder children would be to eat some salad and drink some wine. lol

mobulis · 2019-10-30T15:00:00.879Z

Roxiebelle:

mobulis:

Quick! Now’s your chance to kill your unborn child!

Or not, something you guys ignore.

60 million babies aborted since Roe v Wade, something you guys ignore.

Except we don’t.

mobulis · 2019-10-30T15:00:57.543Z

gooddad409:

Safiel:

https://www.cnn.com/2014/08/05/justice/alabama-abortion-federal-court-ruling/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

I do like him invoking the right to keep and bear arms in comparison to the right to choose an abortion.

I would be deliriously happy if the left and the right reached the following agreement:

The left keeps its ******* hands off of guns and the right keeps its ******* hands off of uteruses.

The obvious problem is that abortion is murder. That cannot and should not be ignored.

Except its not.

madasheck · 2019-10-30T15:49:24.651Z

gooddad409:

Safiel:

https://www.cnn.com/2014/08/05/justice/alabama-abortion-federal-court-ruling/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

I do like him invoking the right to keep and bear arms in comparison to the right to choose an abortion.

I would be deliriously happy if the left and the right reached the following agreement:

The left keeps its ******* hands off of guns and the right keeps its ******* hands off of uteruses.

The obvious problem is that abortion is murder. That cannot and should not be ignored.

Your weak generalization omits the fact that many are done to save some the mother’s life or for other valid medical reasons. That is not murder. Shooting people with an assault rifle is murder.

MoleUK · 2019-10-30T16:19:05.489Z

gooddad409:

The obvious problem is that abortion is murder. That cannot and should not be ignored.

How long should a mother who gets an abortion spend in jail for murder?

Snow96 · 2019-10-30T16:20:41.195Z

Just wondering if you have a link to the court string down every alabama abortion law?

Or was it just thig one law and your thread title is wrong.

Forcefield · 2019-10-30T16:27:18.485Z

gooddad409:

The obvious problem is that abortion is murder. That cannot and should not be ignored.

Murder means killing “unlawfully”. So until you get the law changed (and you won’t) abortion will never be “murder”.

Guvnah · 2019-10-30T16:36:05.381Z

madasheck:

Your week generalization omits the fact that many are done to save some the mother’s life or for other valid medical reasons.

“Many”.

( spit )

The number is minuscule as a proportion of all abortions.

Using the tragic cases to justify the remaining vast majority is using them as human shields.

It’s a sick business.

Guvnah · 2019-10-30T16:37:27.190Z

With more and more judges being appointed by Trump, the pool for lib activists to judge-shop is drying up.

Still a long way to go though.

madasheck · 2019-10-30T17:25:36.203Z

Snow96:

Just wondering if you have a link to the court string down every alabama abortion law?

Or was it just thig one law and your thread title is wrong.

When you have nothing else, nitpick, huh? The thread title is correct. Here’s the official summary of law 189 (from this link) that was just enjoined. Tell me if you see a loophole for your side.

Act 2019-189, HB314, is the Alabama Human Life Protection Act. The act: (1) prohibits a
person from intentionally performing an abortion and makes a violation a Class A felony; (2)
prohibits a person from attempting to perform an abortion and makes a violation a Class C
felony; (3) provides an exception to the restrictions on abortion when an abortion is necessary in
order to prevent a serious health risk to the unborn child’s mother; and (4) specifies that a
woman who receives an abortion in violation of the act may not be held criminally or civilly
liable for the violation.

Also see page 2 of the restraining order.

Snow96 · 2019-10-30T17:27:12.932Z

So the one law is ALL the abortion laws in the state? Or are therre other laws on the books the order doesn’t effect?

I’m just making sure your title is correct.

madasheck · 2019-10-30T17:28:54.951Z

Snow96:

So the one law is ALL the abortion laws in the state? Or are therre other laws on the books the order doesn’t effect?

I’m just making sure your title is correct.

Show me the loophole you find in that summary and in the restraining order. Be very specific.

Snow96 · 2019-10-30T17:33:38.153Z

enjoned and refrain from enforcing alabama act no 2019-189

give immediate notice to state and local officials about the not enforcing this ONE law.
Shal remain in effect until the court resolves in full.

Again it’s effects ONE law . . . NOT all alabama laws regarding abortion.

Now if you have something different, go ahead an quote it or admint your title is misleading.

madasheck · 2019-10-30T18:15:54.245Z

Snow96:

enjoned and refrain from enforcing alabama act no 2019-189

give immediate notice to state and local officials about the not enforcing this ONE law.
Shal remain in effect until the court resolves in full.

Again it’s effects ONE law . . . NOT all alabama laws regarding abortion.

Now if you have something different, go ahead an quote it or admint your title is misleading.

I stand by what I wrote. That order affects all laws. The language is plain and simple. Anyone can see that. You cannot say it doesn’t.

Snow96 · 2019-10-30T21:09:54.112Z

What other laws does this “hold” effect. The order only list ONE law.

W_and_C · 2019-10-30T21:14:49.527Z

SixFoot:

The least they could do while celebrating the right to murder children would be to eat some salad and drink some wine. lol

More of a whiskey guy myself