Joe Rogan vs Neil Young

[zantax]

He can’t be nixed, he isn’t a spotify employee. At most they can stop hosting him, plenty of other people would be happy to have him instead.

[PurpnGold]

@zantax

@PurpnGold

A quote of someone else?

Was Rogan quoting someone every time he used it?

Not all, most and the other was talking about the word, not calling anyone that word. Funny how context suddenly matters.

It’s always mattered.

You don’t think there is a difference between quoting Huck Finn and calling someone the N word?

[SixFoot]

Anyway, here’s to many more episodes with such colorful characters as Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/conservative-youtube-rival-rumble-offers-joe-rogan-24100-million-to-leave-spotify/ar-AATzKWN

[Orygun]

@zantax

He can’t be nixed, he isn’t a spotify employee. At most they can stop hosting him, plenty of other people would be happy to have him instead.

Same as Imus was fired by CBS, Spotify can stop hosting him. If the backlash continues, they will protect the bottom dollar.

[zantax]

@PurpnGold

@zantax

@PurpnGold

A quote of someone else?

Was Rogan quoting someone every time he used it?

Not all, most and the other was talking about the word, not calling anyone that word. Funny how context suddenly matters.

It’s always mattered.

You don’t think there is a difference between quoting Huck Finn and calling someone the N word?

Gee, I could have sworn you said no white person could say it, period. He didn’t call anyone the N word.

[Orygun]

@PurpnGold

It’s always mattered.

You don’t think there is a difference between quoting Huck Finn and calling someone the N word?

Yeah- probably the most important piece of comedy was Lenny Bruce’s use of racial and cultural slurs. Context really matters.

[zantax]

@Orygun

@zantax

He can’t be nixed, he isn’t a spotify employee. At most they can stop hosting him, plenty of other people would be happy to have him instead.

Same as Imus was fired by CBS, Spotify can stop hosting him. If the backlash continues, they will protect the bottom dollar.

This isn’t then, plenty of other platforms out there now.

[PurpnGold]

@Orygun

Personally I think this is a comedian and shock jock who got off on pushing limits. Thats what comedy has been about all the way back to Lenny Bruce’s use of the word. The dude also acknowledged that times have changed and I think sincerely apologized. I don’t think the dude should be canceled forever. But I also honor that he was foolishly ignorant and we don’t get to use the word indiscriminately and I think he gets that too. However, many comedians have used the word and gotten nixed for less. Don Imus and Michael Richards come to mind.

Even white comedians rarely dive into the use of the N word. Unless they are quoting a racist. White comedians have used black stereotypes in funny ways… which I think works depending on the context and delivery.

One of my favorite white comedians, Gary Owens, does not say the N word but he definitely uses black stereotypes and hasn’t even been close to being canceled.

[Orygun]

@zantax

This isn’t then, plenty of other platforms out there now.

Absolutely- and like I said- I think the dude gets it that indiscriminate use of the n word for shock value is ignorant at best. And if we censored him for who he interviews we should have censored folks all the way back to Jerry Springer.

There will always be platforms that cater to what pays the money.

[Orygun]

Hmm I’ll have to look him up.

[Camp]

WOW!! Let the bidding begin!!

[Camp]

That would be Howard Stern.

[zantax]

@Orygun

@zantax

This isn’t then, plenty of other platforms out there now.

Absolutely- and like I said- I think the dude gets it that indiscriminate use of the n word for shock value is ignorant at best. And if we censored him for who he interviews we should have censored folks all the way back to Jerry Springer.

There will always be platforms that cater to what pays the money.

He wasn’t doing it for shock value.

[Camp]

Nope…That is Stern’s shtick.

[Orygun]

@zantax

He wasn’t doing it for shock value.

Comedic? To elucidate points? To try and take the power away from the word? What do you think?

[SixFoot]

@Camp

WOW!! Let the bidding begin!!

Nobody actually gives a ■■■■ about Joe Rogan’s trip to the movie theater over a decade ago. Some kids never grow up, no matter how old they get.

[Orygun]

@Camp

Nope…That is Stern’s shtick.

Rogan was more of a shock jock back in the day. He has only become the scattershot interviewer in the last 5 years.

[PurpnGold]

@zantax

@PurpnGold

It’s always mattered.

You don’t think there is a difference between quoting Huck Finn and calling someone the N word?

Gee, I could have sworn you said no white person could say it, period. He didn’t call anyone the N word.

You shouldn’t. That doesn’t mean there aren’t certain situations where it could be used. My kids shouldn’t run with a knife but maybe they need to to protect their siblings from harm.

The word isn’t banned. Especially “negro”. Plenty of white people have said “negro” when quoting. N with a R is different but even then quoting (or even in acting) it can be acceptable.

Joe Rogan wasn’t quoting anything. Then add the “planet of the apes” comment and it paints a different picture. Do I think he should be canceled? Not necessarily, but I’ll leave that to other comedians to weight in on.

[Orygun]

@PurpnGold

Then add the “planet of the apes” comment and it paints a different picture.

Honestly that was the clincher that the dude did have some underlying racism more than the n-word dumbness. When you lose Dwayne “The Rock”… But even that I mostly give a pass on. People say dumb ■■■■ and if you have a podcast forever and you’re basically a shock jock- you’re gonna say dumb ■■■■ He apologized profusely- good on him.

[PurpnGold]

@Orygun

@PurpnGold

Then add the “planet of the apes” comment and it paints a different picture.

Honestly that was the clincher that the dude did have some underlying racism more than the n-word dumbness. When you lose Dwayne “The Rock”…

Also… this all happened when he was a grown ass man. It wasn’t teenage tweets or an old set from when he was 20. He was in his 40s and in Hollywood. He had to know…