Jim Crow/Jim Eagle

janer · 2021-04-08T14:03:58.235Z

Listening to Biden’s comment again today, stating that it [the Georgia election legislation] made “Jim Crow look like Jim Eagle.”
Now, if the Jim Crow practices were “Jim Eagle” in comparison to the GA legislation, doesn’t that mean that they (Jim Crow) were much larger, and with a far greater wingspan (figuratively speaking) than the proposed GA voting laws? That they were offensive and reprehensible to a far greater degree than GA’s voting laws?
I’m sure that Biden (or whoever wrote the remark) meant to claim that Jim Crow laws would pale in comparison to the GA legislation. But when you analyze the remark, he actually said the opposite.

JayJay · 2021-04-08T14:05:42.977Z

Biden needs to stop talking about this.

So does the Left which is just playing into the Right’s hands with this crap.

It’s because of “yay team” not racism.

Or what racism there is is incidental.

Fight the laws in court, and Stacey Abrams? Fire up your machine to deal with the new laws.

And expose other states trying to do the same thing as Georgia…and be ready to adapt if you can’t stop those states.

The GOP is doing what parties do…if they have power to help themselves, they will wield that power.

Expose it, fight it, sue to stop it…stop using hyperbole that turns off people that might be on your side.

I’m tired of every single issue being framed so as to cause maximum outrage and conflict.

SixFoot · 2021-04-08T14:06:14.387Z

JayJay:

Biden needs to stop talking

Yes. lol

TommyLucchese · 2021-04-08T14:25:30.195Z

JayJay:

It’s because of “yay team” not racism.

Or what racism there is is incidental.

Lol yeah when have Republicans repeatedly tried to limit minority acccess to voting. George W. Bush literally became president because his Florida campaign manager who was also the Secretary of State “accidentally” scrubbed tens of thousands of black voters off the rolls.

JayJay · 2021-04-08T15:03:52.994Z

TommyLucchese:

JayJay:

It’s because of “yay team” not racism.

Or what racism there is is incidental.

Lol yeah when have Republicans repeatedly tried to limit minority acccess to voting. George W. Bush literally became president because his Florida campaign manager who was also the Secretary of State “accidentally” scrubbed tens of thousands of black voters off the rolls.

They limit minority access to voting because minorities tend to vote Democrat,

If they voted Republican they wouldn’t limit their access.

TommyLucchese · 2021-04-08T15:05:09.180Z

JayJay:

They limit minority access to voting because minorities tend to vote Democrat,

If they voted Republican they wouldn’t limit their access.

Yeah I know, the it’s not race it’s class argument applied to political parties. Not buying it. Black people literally only vote ninety plus percent Democrat because Republicans have been explicitly targeting them for fifty years to demonize and disenfranchise.

JayJay · 2021-04-08T15:07:25.027Z

I didn’t say the GOP was trying to reach out to them.

I said instead of reaching out to them, they’re trying to suppress their vote.

Yiu can make it about race but that distracts from the argument they are targeting anyone who happens to vote Democrat.

It’s not race or class…it’s party.

EternalVigilance · 2021-04-08T15:08:01.339Z

JayJay:

Fight the laws in court, and Stacey Abrams? Fire up your machine to deal with the new laws.

Stacey’s career in Georgia might be over after this, and she knows it. She led the charge that’s now costing the state millions and directly harming her constituency - the campaign ads will write themselves.

JayJay · 2021-04-08T15:08:38.267Z

EternalVigilance:

JayJay:

Fight the laws in court, and Stacey Abrams? Fire up your machine to deal with the new laws.

Stacey’s career in Georgia might be over after this, and she knows it. She led the charge that’s now costing the state millions and directly harming her constituency - the campaign ads will write themselves.

Yes MLB screwed her over, which is why she told them not to do this.

TommyLucchese · 2021-04-08T15:09:11.590Z

JayJay:

I didn’t say the GOP was trying to reach out to them.

I said instead of reaching out to them, they’re trying to suppress their vote.

Yiu can make it about race but that distracts from the argument they are targeting anyone who happens to vote Democrat.

It’s not race or class…it’s party.

Yeah, their strategy for fifty years has been explicitly race based to win the white male vote. What’s racial about that question mark.

PurpnGold · 2021-04-08T15:12:08.104Z

JayJay:

It’s because of “yay team” not racism.

Or what racism there is is incidental.

Here’s the issue…

They are adopting the same tactics that were implemented in the past to target black people. We don’t even need to go back to Jim Crow to see it. The NC voter law case spelled it out plainly.

Maybe GA Republicans truly limited voting because they had power and want the senate back. However the tactic is tainted because they used the same tactics that were deemed racist many times before.

Republicans should be looking to remove regulations and roadblocks to voting with the same motivation they try to remove gun regulations. But instead they are pulling out old tricks… tricks with a racist past.

DougBH · 2021-04-08T15:12:10.866Z

JayJay:

EternalVigilance:

JayJay:

Fight the laws in court, and Stacey Abrams? Fire up your machine to deal with the new laws.

Stacey’s career in Georgia might be over after this, and she knows it. She led the charge that’s now costing the state millions and directly harming her constituency - the campaign ads will write themselves.

Yes MLB screwed her over, which is why she told them not to do this.

"Major League Baseball (MLB) commissioner Robert Manfred decided to move the All-Star Game on his own after holding extensive discussions with voting rights groups associated with Lebron James, Stacey Abrams and Rev. Al Sharpton, sources familiar with the move tell Fox News.

Abrams and Sharpton told the commissioner players would boycott the game if not. Sources say that Abrams’ current stance, that she is disappointed about the Georgia boycott, is suspect as she was a key player in the decision. James has publicly supported the Georgia boycott."

MLB commissioner decided to move All-Star Game after pressure from Stacey Abrams on voting issues: sources (yahoo.com)

EternalVigilance · 2021-04-08T15:13:05.289Z

JayJay:

Yes MLB screwed her over, which is why she told them not to do this.

She wanted this - now it’s blowing up in her face and completely out of her control.

JayJay · 2021-04-08T15:14:38.015Z

EternalVigilance:

JayJay:

Yes MLB screwed her over, which is why she told them not to do this.

She wanted this - now it’s blowing up in her face and completely out of her control.

Ah then she was lying when she said not to do this.

JayJay · 2021-04-08T15:16:46.388Z

Yes their tactics are tainted…but to frame this as a racist issue is destined to fail.

EternalVigilance · 2021-04-08T15:23:03.058Z

JayJay:

Ah then she was lying when she said not to do this.

I usually believe that Stacey Abrams is always lying, but your mileage may vary. That said, you’re making some terrific points in this conversation, ones that power brokers should heed.

Rurudyne · 2021-04-08T15:27:17.035Z

Jim Eagle sounds like the name of a Chevrolet dealership.

Years ago a Dallas radio show played a game they called Bubba or Not?

The first three callers would say if a different Little Rock car dealership would have a Bubba working there or not. If they guessed correctly they would win a prize.

The first two both agreed it was too cliche but there was a Bubba working there in both instances. The third said no way would there be a Bubba.

The call went to Bubba Smith Chevrolet…

tnt · 2021-04-08T15:32:02.092Z

JayJay:

It’s because of “yay team” not racism.

Or what racism there is is incidental.

Just because it’s not racist in original intent doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be called out as racist.

Borgia_dude · 2021-04-08T15:39:58.178Z

JayJay:

Yes their tactics are tainted…but to frame this as a racist issue is destined to fail.

Agree that there is likely not racist intent behind their tactics, but if it disproportionally effects one race more than another, intent is moot.

FreeAndClear · 2021-04-08T15:41:40.819Z

Borgia_dude:

JayJay:

Yes their tactics are tainted…but to frame this as a racist issue is destined to fail.

Agree that there is likely not racist intent behind their tactics, but if it disproportionally effects one race more than another, intent is moot.

Right but calling this Jim Crow on steroids or whatever is bad optics