Jerusalem Post: 58% of hospitalized COVID cases were fully vaccinated

Smyrna · 2021-07-24T15:14:15.205Z

conan:

Or maybe they should be working on new vaccine using traditional methods.

That’s the J&J vaccine.

Jezcoe · 2021-07-24T15:16:59.893Z

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

This is a supremely weird take on the news that Israel… an entire country who has a pretty good vaccination rate …. has only 143 people hospitalized in the entire country as an argument against the effectiveness of the vaccine.

Supremely weird.

We can use raw numbers if they confirm our bias now? We don’t have to use rates?

Okay… use the current case rate to argue against the effectiveness of the vaccine,.

And

Go!

WuWei · 2021-07-24T15:19:59.217Z

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

This is a supremely weird take on the news that Israel… an entire country who has a pretty good vaccination rate …. has only 143 people hospitalized in the entire country as an argument against the effectiveness of the vaccine.

Supremely weird.

We can use raw numbers if they confirm our bias now? We don’t have to use rates?

Okay… use the current case rate to argue against the effectiveness of the vaccine,.

And

Go!

Not my argument. Just looking for a rules clarification.

Jezcoe · 2021-07-24T15:22:56.219Z

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

This is a supremely weird take on the news that Israel… an entire country who has a pretty good vaccination rate …. has only 143 people hospitalized in the entire country as an argument against the effectiveness of the vaccine.

Supremely weird.

We can use raw numbers if they confirm our bias now? We don’t have to use rates?

Okay… use the current case rate to argue against the effectiveness of the vaccine,.

And

Go!

Not my argument. Just looking for a rules clarification.

I am reacting to this super stupid notion that the Vaccines are ineffective… there have been multiple threads about it by the same person. Don’t know why there isn’t a “one and only” thread on it.

Also… not sure what the objective is in a foolish endeavor to convince people that the vaccines are ineffective or dangerous…

So take case rate or population total… the argument being made against the vaccines are not coming from a legitimate place.

Not sure why it continues really.

WuWei · 2021-07-24T15:24:13.563Z

Jezcoe:

So take case rate or population total…

So I can pick from now on. Cool.

Bill.in.PA · 2021-07-24T15:25:20.594Z

Biden says otherwise: “. . . you are not going to get COVID if you’ve had these vaccinations . . .”

twitter.com

Lawyerforlaws

@lawyer4laws

Australian News on Joe Biden ~ https://t.co/vkr5VoI3qz

8:45 PM - 23 Jul 2021 15K 7K

Will the tech giants take Biden’s townhall for spreading misinformation?

Jezcoe · 2021-07-24T15:25:30.277Z

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

So take case rate or population total…

So I can pick from now on. Cool.

Yah… when arguing against the effectivness of the vaccine… go for it.

Ben_Natuf · 2021-07-24T15:26:32.982Z

Jezcoe:

Not sure why it continues really.

because this ain’t twitter. orthodoxy is not required

Ben_Natuf · 2021-07-24T15:27:55.136Z

biden lied… not surprised.

WuWei · 2021-07-24T15:28:10.755Z

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

So take case rate or population total…

So I can pick from now on. Cool.

Yah… when arguing against the effectivness of the vaccine… go for it.

Oh no, on any topic.

Jezcoe · 2021-07-24T15:28:50.885Z

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

WuWei:

Jezcoe:

So take case rate or population total…

So I can pick from now on. Cool.

Yah… when arguing against the effectivness of the vaccine… go for it.

Oh no, on any topic.

Where would you like to use the numbers?

WuWei · 2021-07-24T15:29:45.351Z

If you have a problem with how this site is managed, take it up appropriately.

No mealey-mouthed comments from behind the backs of hands.

FreeAndClear · 2021-07-24T15:30:14.186Z

Ben_Natuf:

its irrelevant when discussing “breakthrough” cases, which may be part of the 5% it doesn’t work for or may be people who it did work for until their antibodies died off. how do we know which it is? we don’t. my point is we should expect an increase in cases as we move forward in time. what we should not do is panic… but we will. The politics of fear got dems the whitehouse, so, it will be used.

Ah of course yeah i misunderstood your point.

WuWei · 2021-07-24T15:30:23.822Z

Jezcoe:

Where would you like to use the numbers?

It’ll come up eventually. And I’ll refer back.

Ben_Natuf · 2021-07-24T15:39:18.761Z

the politicization of covid as a weapon against trump was disgusting. when cases start ticking up in the fall, it will be no less disgusting the other way around.

WuWei · 2021-07-24T15:39:57.425Z

Ben_Natuf:

the politicization of covid as a weapon against trump was disgusting. when cases start ticking up in the fall, it will be no less disgusting the other way around.

True, but I’ll do it anyway.

Ben_Natuf · 2021-07-24T15:41:35.270Z

so will I. and i’ll be completely happily disgusted with myself

westaussie · 2021-07-24T15:45:40.336Z

Alan Jones has zero credibility.

WuWei · 2021-07-24T15:45:45.737Z

Ben_Natuf:

so will I. and i’ll be completely happily disgusted with myself

It is a necessary evil.

NickN · 2021-07-24T16:14:41.908Z

Natural origin vs man made COVID in a lab-how about that?