Orygun
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Witch Hunt! I really wonder why you need to protect the dude anymore…he was crazed…calling Secretaries of State to not certify the election, calling and asking for votes from Georgias sec of state, pressuring Pence not to certify the electors, screaming for months about stolen elections, preparing plans for alternate slates of electors, holding rallies claiming the election was stolen, sending his supporters to descend on the Capitol.
I know y’all well enough to know you would be on this for…ever…if it was a democrat who had done half these things.
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Camp
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If Trump had remained on social media your vision may have come to pass.
Censorship is always a bad move.
Camp
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No they were not.
This is where the hyperbole comes out.
Orygun
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Yeah- Trump was really doing that. What did he want Pence to do?
enki
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she is not in charge of the Capitol Police. That information can be easily verified.
So, the bill already passed and that article is a year old.
Camp
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You are incorrect.
Whatever legal options that Pence had was overcome by the violence anyway. It could be said that the Pence options were the target of the violence if we want to take the train to crazytown with the wild theories.
Camp
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She is and that can be verified.
Orygun
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I’m sorry did you answer the question- What did Trump want Pence to do?
Camp
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You tell us and then tell us what happened to the legal election challenges after the insurrection theatre show.
Orygun
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OK- he was pressuring Pence to not certify the results of the election that would allow for a peaceful transfer of power. Yes?
Camp
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No he was not.
They wanted to legally challenge the states that changed the election laws for covid.
Insurrection theatre shut that down.
The transfer of power is your fantasy and thank goodness it has worked out with Biden having to fumble through the worst of the pandemic.
Going to be a lot of talking off the fantasy ledge the next few days I see.
It’s all good. Biden is right where we need him now.
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Orygun
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Wow- just to check- you don’t think Trump pressured Pence to stop the certification of the results of the election?
Jan 6 was not inauguration day. No power was to be transferred that day or any other day for several weeks. Drama queen Trump haters say “coup”. There was no coup and there there was no insurrection. Why would Trump supporters interrupt the very sessions that were being held to discuss opposition to the electors? The joint session was on break while the separate houses were meeting to discuss the opposition. Only Trump haters would have wanted those meetings disrupted.
Get a grip. Put down the narrative and think for yourself.
Orygun
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Correct- there can be no inauguration until the electors are certified.
Again- Trump…
1- Pressured Pence not to certify the electors that is required for the peaceful transfer of power
2- Pressured Sec of States to not certify electors
3- Pressured Georgia’s sec of state to “find” votes
4- Pressured state legislatures to overturn election results
5- Endlessly yelled and tweeted that the election was stolen- without evidence
6- held rallies to talk about the “stolen” election.
7- held a rally on jan 6th to repeat numerous lies and push supporters to descend on the Capitol
8- Waited over three hours to take appropriate action to stop the supporters from violently storming the Capitol.
So…attempted coup.
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He didn’t say January 6th was inauguration day. He said “peaceful transfer of power to the duly elected president.”
The part being skipped over was “duly elected” which is based on the people voting for EC representatives, certified by the State, sent to Congress and counted on January 6th. Part of the Trump** organization plan included ignoring the will of the people and state certifications and getting the Presidential selection kicked to the House where Trump** had an advantage.

WW
Kicked to the house? That sounds constitutional to me. Why would anyone object to a constitutional process being invoked? Hardly a coup.
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Orygun
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Just to be clear- if a democrat loses the presidential election and decides to make his VP not certify the result, and then gets Congress to certify the democrat as the winner over the results of the people, you would heartily support that?
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DougBH
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As to all that “pressure”, yes he wanted them to agree with him. Failing to provide evidence sufficiently to support his case, they rejected his requests. Everybody performed their constitutional duty as they saw the evidence. Again, that is not the definition of a coup.