(Jan 5) Latest Jobs Report: Two-thirds of new jobs in 2023 went to persons born abroad

tnt · 2024-01-15T19:08:07.697Z

WuWei:

They work for or with their cousins, brothers-in-law, etc. Or criminals.

You can’t invite 2 million men a year in here, then deny them a means to make a living. That’s beyond cruel.

Now you want to put their legal friends in jail for letting them earn one?

Fair point. But if you don’t want people trying to cross the river, if their cousin in the kitchen is afraid fo paying the price, maybe he won’t call down to mexico to tell cuz how to come over…

WuWei:

The Good Book tells us we are obligated to treat the foreigners among us as we treat our own.

Unless they need find shelter ahead of a storm evidently.

WuWei:

And if they aren’t illegals, why is it illegal to hite them on this side of the river?

Are you refering to migrants here waiting for their asylum hearings? they are here legally.

So your argument is to allow undocumented migrants to work - should they be given green cards? Sounds a little like amnesty.

WuWei · 2024-01-15T19:13:09.090Z

tnt:

Fair point. But if you don’t want people trying to cross the river, if their cousin in the kitchen is afraid fo paying the price, maybe he won’t call down to mexico to tell cuz how to come over…

Already been tried and failed miserably.
They will come even if there are no jobs. It’s better to be poor in the US than any other place in the world. You should go look at what they’re leaving.
Put the legals in prison for helping family? What’s wrong with you?

tnt:

Unless they need find shelter ahead of a storm evidently.

Who cleaned the school?

tnt:

Are you refering to migrants here waiting for their asylum hearings? they are here legally.

So your argument is to allow undocumented migrants to work - should they be given green cards? Sounds a little like amnesty.

No. I’m saying you don’t get to put people who hire them in prison for working them. You don’t want them hired, don’t invite them among us.

If they aren’t illegal, why is it illegal to hire them?

WuWei · 2024-01-15T19:22:54.549Z

tnt:

Unless they need find shelter ahead of a storm evidently.

Charity is voluntary. Can you not understand that?

tnt · 2024-01-15T19:44:15.895Z

WuWei:

If they aren’t illegal, why is it illegal to hire them?

There is a difference between people waiting for their hearing and people who have not asked for asylum. A legal difference I mean.

WuWei:

No. I’m saying you don’t get to put people who hire them in prison for working them.

Where did I say we should throw them in jail?

tnt · 2024-01-15T19:45:12.160Z

WuWei:

tnt:

Unless they need find shelter ahead of a storm evidently.

Charity is voluntary. Can you not understand that?

Yet you want immigration law to follow the good book…

WuWei · 2024-01-15T19:47:23.961Z

tnt:

There is a difference between people waiting for their hearing and people who have not asked for asylum. A legal difference I mean.

Are people waiting for asylum hearings allowed to work?

WuWei · 2024-01-15T19:48:03.455Z

tnt:

Where did I say we should throw them in jail?

When you jumped on the bandwagon.

What do you want to do to them?

WuWei · 2024-01-15T19:48:41.815Z

tnt:

WuWei:

tnt:

Unless they need find shelter ahead of a storm evidently.

Charity is voluntary. Can you not understand that?

Yet you want immigration law to follow the good book…

What? What are you talking about?

tnt · 2024-01-15T20:20:27.392Z

WuWei:

Are people waiting for asylum hearings allowed to work?

Yes.

www.nolo.com

When Can Asylum Applicants Get a Work Permit (EAD Card)?

Asylum applicants don't qualify for a work permit until their case is won or 180 days have passed with no decision by USCIS or the immigration court.

In order to apply for an EAD with a pending application, you will need to have been waiting 150 days or more with no initial decision on your application from the asylum office or from the immigration court. (The time period was changed to 365 days during the Trump Administration, but the Biden Administration has reversed that.)

I think it should be less.

tnt · 2024-01-15T20:20:55.689Z

WuWei:

When you jumped on the bandwagon.

What do you want to do to them?

A fine.

tnt · 2024-01-15T20:21:58.162Z

WuWei:

What? What are you talking about?

You don’t want people who hire undocumented workers to face repercussions because the good book tells us to treat foreigners as our own.

WuWei:

The Good Book tells us we are obligated to treat the foreigners among us as we treat our own.

WuWei · 2024-01-15T21:56:19.991Z

So no. Not without applying and with special permission.

Yeah, I knew that.

You know who can work? DACA.

WuWei · 2024-01-15T21:57:38.054Z

tnt:

WuWei:

When you jumped on the bandwagon.

What do you want to do to them?

A fine.

Ah, so you want to break them and shut their businesses down. Now how many do we have not making a living?

WuWei · 2024-01-15T21:58:01.367Z

tnt:

WuWei:

What? What are you talking about?

You don’t want people who hire undocumented workers to face repercussions because the good book tells us to treat foreigners as our own.

WuWei:

The Good Book tells us we are obligated to treat the foreigners among us as we treat our own.

Among us

tnt · 2024-01-15T23:13:36.438Z

WuWei:

Ah, so you want to break them and shut their businesses down. Now how many do we have not making a living?

Don’t put words in my mouth. If I wanted to break them and put them out of business, I would have said that.

What is your solution? You seem to want to let undocumented workers work, and you don’t want to penalize those that hire them.

So…what would you like to do?

tnt · 2024-01-15T23:14:06.416Z

WuWei:

Among us

The folks in the tents are among us.

WuWei · 2024-01-15T23:15:50.482Z

tnt:

WuWei:

Ah, so you want to break them and shut their businesses down. Now how many do we have not making a living?

Don’t put words in my mouth. If I wanted to break them and put them out of business, I would have said that.

What is your solution? You seem to want to let undocumented workers work, and you don’t want to penalize those that hire them.

So…what would you like to do?

What do you think those fines do? The intent of them?

Among us

WuWei · 2024-01-15T23:16:45.081Z

tnt:

WuWei:

Among us

The folks in the tents are among us.

Yes, they are. Thank to Brandon and the Sanctuary Signalers.

Were the kids asked?

Who cleaned the school?

tnt · 2024-01-15T23:17:50.780Z

WuWei:

Yes, they are. Thank to Brandon and the Sanctuary Signalers.

Were the kids asked?

Who cleaned the school?

Not interested in repetitive cryptic nonsense. Speak plainly, or I’ll say good night.

WuWei · 2024-01-15T23:20:11.965Z

tnt:

WuWei:

Yes, they are. Thank to Brandon and the Sanctuary Signalers.

Were the kids asked?

Who cleaned the school?

Not interested in repetitive cryptic nonsense. Speak plainly, or I’ll say good night.

That is plain.

Goodnight