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If I put my foot on your neck for 8 hours… then let my foot off your neck when the police came to arrest me. When that foot came off your neck…Did that reverse the pain you suffered? Did that reverse the time you lost by being held captive for 8 hours?

No, it simply removed the constrain that held you back.

Reversing that pain would be the perp paying you for lost time… helping you get your neck fixed… therapy etc.

Is the government now a criminal because they helped you out? Well of course not.

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All? Nah. Majority sure.

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The thing is, the foot wasn’t on your neck.

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You and I have been down this path before. I don’t have time to rehash my arguments. You know where I stand

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Based on?

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The foot = government

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Yes, I know the myth well. You can’t prove it, that’s the beauty of it.

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Hindsight

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Not your neck anymore than mine.

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Of what?

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Individual with specific damages as opposed to every black business owner, some of whom are no doubt immigrants who came long after Jim Crow was dead and buried.

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The answer to my question is, “Yes, discrimination based on race is racism.”

The next question in this case might be, “Is it justified in this case based on slavery and Crow?”

The answer may be “Yes”, but it is still racism. And now we are justifying racism.

Until we stop that, nothing is going to change.
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I appreciate the position but tend to look at corrective measures differently. When a surgeon cuts out a cancer or treats it with chemo/radiation, terrific risk-based damage is made that succeeds or fails.

We as a society are always trying to cut out cancers. If one of those cuts is technically racist, I, like a surgeon, would like to weigh whether the cancer will be removed or create more complications. But I’d like the opportunity to try.

And yes, preferences being discussed are technically racist.

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Impacts of slavery and Jim Crow didn’t end in 1968.

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Does the surgeon come back 400 years later and pay the patient for his tumor?

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You never had any impact from either. I was impacted by Crow more than you.

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And there it is. Now we can rationalize racism.

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Haha. Excellent one. Different question but a good one. Not touching it.

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Yes, I’ve said that.

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I was…I am. Just because I am successful doesn’t mean I wasn’t impacted.

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You weren’t. Yeah, it does.