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WuWei · 2018-06-09T13:47:53.520Z

Texas 38.02

(a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally refuses to give his name, residence address, or date of birth to a peace officer who has lawfully arrested the person and requested the information.

I like this law. Cops don’t. Most people don’t know it.

Of course being in a vehicle changes things.

Samson_Corwell · 2018-06-09T13:50:11.883Z

WuWei:

That’s not true at all.

You are correct. I misspoke.

wiley8425 · 2018-06-09T13:50:34.600Z

True. And that’s Texas. In Oregon, it’s perfectly legal for a cop to stop someone on a sidewalk and ask for their ID, then haul them in when they refuse. Even though they’re never being “arrested.”

Samson_Corwell · 2018-06-09T13:51:15.631Z

WuWei:

Texas 38.02

(a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally refuses to give his name, residence address, or date of birth to a peace officer who has lawfully arrested the person and requested the information.

I like this law. Cops don’t. Most people don’t know it.

Of course being in a vehicle changes things.

This must become law in all in of the 57 states.

WuWei · 2018-06-09T13:51:19.209Z

Y’all need to change that.

wiley8425 · 2018-06-09T13:52:11.312Z

It’s Oregon. The State is still actively fighting “right to die” which was voted on over a decade ago. They do what they want, regardless of the voters.

WuWei · 2018-06-09T13:53:07.309Z

There is no national ID requirement, so would it not fall under the 10th?

I’m a little surprised at Oregon, I thought for some reason the government there is liberal.

Samson_Corwell · 2018-06-09T13:53:29.750Z

wiley8425:

What’s a terry stop?

It’s when the police stop every person that walks by in order to find someone by the name of Terry.

wiley8425 · 2018-06-09T13:54:01.355Z

That’s what they want people to think. They’re mostly just authoritarian.

tnt · 2018-06-09T13:54:08.857Z

no.

Reagardless of state or privately run, last study shows it costs tax payers about 30K a year to lock someone up.

wiley8425 · 2018-06-09T13:54:24.786Z

Yeah? So what?

Samson_Corwell · 2018-06-09T13:54:32.675Z

WuWei:

There is no national ID requirement, so would it not fall under the 10th?

I’m a little surprised at Oregon, I thought for some reason the government there is liberal.

I’m saying all states should have that in their laws.

WuWei · 2018-06-09T13:54:38.608Z

Imagine that.

wiley8425 · 2018-06-09T13:55:19.953Z

Crazy, I know.

WuWei · 2018-06-09T13:56:04.117Z

I agree.

Here’s the whole thing:

Findlaw

Texas Penal Code - PENAL § 38.02 | FindLaw

Texas Penal Code PENAL TX PENAL Section 38.02. Read the code on FindLaw

Like all states, we do some things well. And others horribly.

Samson_Corwell · 2018-06-09T13:56:42.157Z

wiley8425:

It’s Oregon. The State is still actively fighting “right to die” which was voted on over a decade ago. They do what they want, regardless of the voters.

Fighting against a “right to die” doesn’t strike me as too problematic. Catholic and most other Christian social teaching is postively opposed to that.

WuWei · 2018-06-09T13:57:19.011Z

Is it?

10 ch

wiley8425 · 2018-06-09T13:57:37.626Z

But the individual rights of the patient and doctor patient confidentiality don’t matter?

wiley8425 · 2018-06-09T13:58:28.336Z

If a patient wants to die and their doctor agrees to provide assistance, why is it any business of the government or anyone else for that matter?

WuWei · 2018-06-09T14:06:39.887Z

I don’t know what I think about all the immigrant in prison business. It’s very complex.

I don’t think there’s any doubt privatizing prisons has corrupted the injustice system.

All illegal immigrants are not created equal. Some are truly good people looking for a chance. They have contributed greatly to this country. I see them everywhere I go. And their children.

Others are predators taking advantage of any hand up we offer to the above.

And then there are probably many who fall in between.

I do know far too many of our citizens are in prison. We have far too many laws. And we are focused on the wrong “crimes.”