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wiley8425 · 2018-06-09T13:43:50.555Z

In some states they still can. Terry stops are still legal. Even in Oregon where they claim the police can’t stop you for an id check they follow that up with their ability to detain a person on suspicion until they can ascertain their identity. Sure sounds like being required to prove who you are to me.

wiley8425 · 2018-06-09T13:44:36.007Z

“with their ability to detain a person on suspicion until they can ascertain their identity” should they refuse to provide id when requested. Just to clarify.

WuWei · 2018-06-09T13:47:53.520Z

Texas 38.02

(a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally refuses to give his name, residence address, or date of birth to a peace officer who has lawfully arrested the person and requested the information.

I like this law. Cops don’t. Most people don’t know it.

Of course being in a vehicle changes things.

Samson_Corwell · 2018-06-09T13:50:11.883Z

WuWei:

That’s not true at all.

You are correct. I misspoke.

wiley8425 · 2018-06-09T13:50:34.600Z

True. And that’s Texas. In Oregon, it’s perfectly legal for a cop to stop someone on a sidewalk and ask for their ID, then haul them in when they refuse. Even though they’re never being “arrested.”

Samson_Corwell · 2018-06-09T13:51:15.631Z

WuWei:

Texas 38.02

(a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally refuses to give his name, residence address, or date of birth to a peace officer who has lawfully arrested the person and requested the information.

I like this law. Cops don’t. Most people don’t know it.

Of course being in a vehicle changes things.

This must become law in all in of the 57 states.

WuWei · 2018-06-09T13:51:19.209Z

Y’all need to change that.

wiley8425 · 2018-06-09T13:52:11.312Z

It’s Oregon. The State is still actively fighting “right to die” which was voted on over a decade ago. They do what they want, regardless of the voters.

WuWei · 2018-06-09T13:53:07.309Z

There is no national ID requirement, so would it not fall under the 10th?

I’m a little surprised at Oregon, I thought for some reason the government there is liberal.

Samson_Corwell · 2018-06-09T13:53:29.750Z

wiley8425:

What’s a terry stop?

It’s when the police stop every person that walks by in order to find someone by the name of Terry.

wiley8425 · 2018-06-09T13:54:01.355Z

That’s what they want people to think. They’re mostly just authoritarian.

tnt · 2018-06-09T13:54:08.857Z

no.

Reagardless of state or privately run, last study shows it costs tax payers about 30K a year to lock someone up.

wiley8425 · 2018-06-09T13:54:24.786Z

Yeah? So what?

Samson_Corwell · 2018-06-09T13:54:32.675Z

WuWei:

There is no national ID requirement, so would it not fall under the 10th?

I’m a little surprised at Oregon, I thought for some reason the government there is liberal.

I’m saying all states should have that in their laws.

WuWei · 2018-06-09T13:54:38.608Z

Imagine that.

wiley8425 · 2018-06-09T13:55:19.953Z

Crazy, I know.

WuWei · 2018-06-09T13:56:04.117Z

I agree.

Here’s the whole thing:

Findlaw

Texas Penal Code - PENAL § 38.02 | FindLaw

Texas Penal Code PENAL TX PENAL Section 38.02. Read the code on FindLaw

Like all states, we do some things well. And others horribly.

Samson_Corwell · 2018-06-09T13:56:42.157Z

wiley8425:

It’s Oregon. The State is still actively fighting “right to die” which was voted on over a decade ago. They do what they want, regardless of the voters.

Fighting against a “right to die” doesn’t strike me as too problematic. Catholic and most other Christian social teaching is postively opposed to that.

WuWei · 2018-06-09T13:57:19.011Z

Is it?

10 ch

wiley8425 · 2018-06-09T13:57:37.626Z

But the individual rights of the patient and doctor patient confidentiality don’t matter?