It’s Official, The Laptop Is Real

[biggestal99]

@Ben_Natuf

russia, russia, russia

Meeting, meeting, meeting with the trump campaign.

That is a fact

Read the report.

Allan

[Ben_Natuf]

@WorldWatcher

@Ben_Natuf

except its not. we know its hunter’s laptop, and we know the emails we’ve seen (or i have) are genuine because they’ve been coroborated by the sender and/or recipient. and we have a witness who was part of it. emails don’t just hang around in the computer… they go somewhere.

See this is the part you are missing.

#1 Hunter Laptop:
No we don’t know that it is Hunter’s laptop. I haven’t seen any proof that it was Hunters laptop, just the claim that it is. Where was it purchased and where are the purchase receipts? Apple will have this registered the information and tied that specific machine to Hunter’s Apple account. Has the correlation been confirmed? The FBI has the physical laptop, what has a forensic analysis shown as there will be DNA all over the laptop especially under the chicklet keys where skin oils and flaked off skin cells are hard to wipe off.

So no, until there his fiscal forensic evidence and DNA forensic evidence that ties Hunter to the laptop we cannot be sure it is his.

the excuses and rationalizations here should be embarrassing for you.

#2 Emails:
No disagreement that some, most or all of the emails are true as you note their has been outside corroboration.

#3 Witness:
The witness, assuming you mean the store owner, is blind. And therefore could not for a fact that it was Hunter or someone that looked like Hunter. There is no security video (that I know of) from the store or surrounding business/ATM’s that show Hunter in the area. Then there is the work order. We have the signature on the work order and we have Hunter’s signature from other legal documents. The two aren’t even close.

aside from the continued fantastical attempt to spin out some sort of plausible denial, this is all just silly

So while we know many of the emails are true, we do not know if the laptop was planted as part of a political hit operation. If a political hit operation it is just as important to know it’s source at it is to know about the emails.

WW

do you actually read this conspiracy theory level crap you type?

and no, the witness is not the shop owner. its a former business partner of hunter with first hand information.

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

No it doesn’t. I can have your emails to another person on my laptop.

Yes, but that doesn’t mean they are real and it also doesn’t mean they actually came from that person.

@WuWei

No. Who owned the laptop isn’t important. I can let you use my laptop for your nefarious deeds.

He also mentioned DNA evidence. You can also get forensics history of logins to see who else not only logged into your system but who logged into gmail, yahoo, aol etc.

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

Yes, but that doesn’t mean they are real and it also doesn’t mean they actually came from that person.

It doesn’t mean they aren’t.

@PurpnGold

He also mentioned DNA evidence. You can also get forensics history of logins to see who else not only logged into your system but who logged into gmail, yahoo, aol etc.

Sure, if you choose to.

You know what happened.

[PurpnGold]

@Ben_Natuf

the excuses and rationalizations here should be embarrassing for you.

He’s right. There has been no evidence that the laptop belongs to Biden or that he even used it.

But there does seem to be a laptop that the fbi has.

@Ben_Natuf

do you actually read this conspiracy theory level crap you type?

He is also right about the emails.

This is probably not an area where you want to challenge. You seem to have no idea how emails work

[WuWei]

You know what happened too.

[WorldWatcher]

@WuWei

@WorldWatcher

#1 Does it all of the some or all of the emails appear to be real. However that is not proof of ownership of the laptop. It goes toward authenticity of the emails.

No it doesn’t. I can have your emails to another person on my laptop.

No. Who owned the laptop isn’t important. I can let you use my laptop for your nefarious deeds.

#1 Of course you can plant emails on any laptop.

#2 Why would you let someone use your laptop for nefarious deeds. But remember THAT is not the claim, the claim is that it is Hunter’s laptop and no evidence (that I know of) has ever been presented to tie Hunter as the owner. You don’t think the Trump** FBI was smart enough to swab the surface and hard to clean areas like joints, hinges, USB/Firewire/Ethernet connections, under the chicklet keys, and even internally where dust and skins samples can be sucked in as part of the cooling process?

So as to “how the laptop got to the blind repair shop owner” the only response is…

WW

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

@PurpnGold

Yes, but that doesn’t mean they are real and it also doesn’t mean they actually came from that person.

It doesn’t mean they aren’t.

Luckily for you, I know for a fact the FBI has tools to validate the authenticity of e-mail traffic and emails.

@WuWei

@PurpnGold

He also mentioned DNA evidence. You can also get forensics history of logins to see who else not only logged into your system but who logged into gmail, yahoo, aol etc.

Sure, if you choose to.

You know what happened.

You have to if you want to assert that a laptop was used and/or belonged to Biden. Otherwise it’s just Feefees.

[WuWei]

@WorldWatcher

#1 Of course you can plant emails on any laptop.

Sure. Or a crackhead can send/receive them. Which is more likely.

P-Anon.

@WorldWatcher

Why would you let someone use your laptop for nefarious deeds.

Profit.

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

You have to if you want to assert that a laptop was used and/or belonged to Biden. Otherwise it’s just Feefees.

Sure. You know he did it.

[PurpnGold]

@WuWei

@PurpnGold

You have to if you want to assert that a laptop was used and/or belonged to Biden. Otherwise it’s just Feefees.

Sure. You know he did it.

Feefees.

[WuWei]

@PurpnGold

@WuWei

@PurpnGold

You have to if you want to assert that a laptop was used and/or belonged to Biden. Otherwise it’s just Feefees.

Sure. You know he did it.

Feefees.

Sure. You feel the same fee fees.

[margaretms2]

Are you kidding? It all seems totally legit.

[Jezcoe]

@margaretms2

Are you kidding? It all seems totally legit.

A lot has to be willfully ignored to accept the 100% authenticity of the soggy laptop

[Ben_Natuf]

lol… how typically leftist.

[Guilds]

@Ben_Natuf

how typically leftist.

Reality tends to have a liberal bias.

[W_and_C]

@Jezcoe

@W_and_C

@Jezcoe

@W_and_C

Ok, so name me one concrete policy position that he’s flip-flopped on.

It isn’t so much that he has flip flopped, it is that he is unequal in his deep deep concerns.

Which means what , exactly ? He’s now more critical of the left than he was in 2006 ?

Nope. It is that his criticism is facing one direction.

His deep deep concern only goes one way.

Coincidentally, just stumbled upon this article:

“The amazing thing is it’s the same people, it’s David Frum and Nicolle Wallace and Matthew Dowd and Bill Kristol and Max Boot,” Greenwald said. “All these neocons back then who were doing this and made themselves the enemy of the country. They ended up in complete disrepute by the end of the second Bush-Cheney term, are now back in the saddle doing it on behalf of Democrats on their cable networks, on their newspapers’ op-ed pages. And it’s like people have no historical memory, they cheer for these people because they rehabilitated themselves by opposing Trump and that’s all they know.”

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/03/17/greenwald_the_same_neocons_that_pushed_iraq_war_are_now_doing_it_on_behalf_of_democrats_and_they_are_being_cheered.html

Add Cheneys to that list too. And Bolton, to an extent. And the Lincoln Project. Now ask yourself, why do so many former Bushies who gifted us probably the biggest policy blunder in our modern history i.e. Iraq war are so adored by the left nowadays ?

Greenwald isn’t the problem here.

[Jezcoe]

@W_and_C

@Jezcoe

@W_and_C

@Jezcoe

@W_and_C

Ok, so name me one concrete policy position that he’s flip-flopped on.

It isn’t so much that he has flip flopped, it is that he is unequal in his deep deep concerns.

Which means what , exactly ? He’s now more critical of the left than he was in 2006 ?

Nope. It is that his criticism is facing one direction.

His deep deep concern only goes one way.

Coincidentally, just stumbled upon this article:

“The amazing thing is it’s the same people, it’s David Frum and Nicolle Wallace and Matthew Dowd and Bill Kristol and Max Boot,” Greenwald said. “All these neocons back then who were doing this and made themselves the enemy of the country. They ended up in complete disrepute by the end of the second Bush-Cheney term, are now back in the saddle doing it on behalf of Democrats on their cable networks, on their newspapers’ op-ed pages. And it’s like people have no historical memory, they cheer for these people because they rehabilitated themselves by opposing Trump and that’s all they know.”

Greenwald: The Same Neocons That Pushed Iraq War Are Now Doing It On Behalf Of Democrats And They Are Being Cheered | Video | RealClearPolitics

Add Cheneys to that list too. And Bolton, to an extent. And the Lincoln Project. Now ask yourself, why do so many former Bushies who gifted us probably the biggest policy blunder in our modern history i.e. Iraq war are so adored by the left nowadays ?

Greenwald isn’t the problem here.

The soggy laptop was why Greenwald resigned from The Intercept. He bought into it as 100% real… he has parroted the exact same thing as the convservative media over the past couple of days over this NYT piece.

But the funny thing about that piece… which I still don’t think that people have read because it is pretty short… is that it is about how the DOJ is having a hard time charging Hunter Biden.

There is also this little part which people are completely ignoring.

In one email to Mr. Archer in April 2014, Mr. Biden outlined his vision for working with Burisma. In the email, Hunter Biden indicated that the forthcoming announcement of a trip to Ukraine by Vice President Biden — who is referred to in the email as “my guy,” but not by name — should “be characterized as part of our advice and thinking — but what he will say and do is out of our hands.”The announcement “could be a really good thing or it could end up creating too great an expectation. We need to temper expectations regarding that visit,” Hunter Biden wrote.

What I think that we see with people like Glenn Greenwald and Matt Tiabbi is that their legitimate hatred of Clinton… and it is perfectly fine for them to hate Clinton… I encourage it… has blinded them to criticism of the Right.

That Greenwald saw that the reporting of the laptop… which was an obviously sketchy politcal hit job from Guiliani for anyone who looks at it for a couple of seconds… was important first and worry about the veracity of the claims later.

And that has only been amplified by them moving onto Substack where they have direct access to a paying audience without any sort of editorial controls. That makes for a perfect incentive to play to audience instead of following journalistic integrity.

Just my two cents.

[Piper]

@WorldWatcher

The witness, assuming you mean the store owner, is blind. And therefore could not for a fact that it was Hunter or someone that looked like Hunter. There is no security video (that I know of) from the store or surrounding business/ATM’s that show Hunter in the area. Then there is the work order. We have the signature on the work order and we have Hunter’s signature from other legal documents. The two aren’t even close.

Joe Biden’s home is in Delaware. The laptop was dropped off in a computer repair shop in Delaware. That is quite a stretch to say that Hunter could have been in the area.

[WorldWatcher]

@Piper

@WorldWatcher

The witness, assuming you mean the store owner, is blind. And therefore could not for a fact that it was Hunter or someone that looked like Hunter. There is no security video (that I know of) from the store or surrounding business/ATM’s that show Hunter in the area. Then there is the work order. We have the signature on the work order and we have Hunter’s signature from other legal documents. The two aren’t even close.

Joe Biden’s home is in Delaware. The laptop was dropped off in a computer repair shop in Delaware. That is quite a stretch to say that Hunter could have been in the area.

It wasn’t Joe Biden’s latop, or at least no one I’ve seen is claiming it is.

But thank you very much for another piece that could be corroborating evidence as to the ownership of the laptop.

So at the time Hunter lived in California in Hollywood Hills. Is there any record of him traveling from California to Delaware or having been in Delaware? Returning to California from Delaware around the proper time?

What do credit card/ATM transactions show, was he in California living his life or do transaction show he was in Delaware at the time in question?

Wanna bet the Trump** FBI…:

• Has the purchase records of the computer itself,
• As an Apple computer it is heavily tied into the Apple ecosystem so Apple has records on its purchase and registration,
• Forensic analysis of the computer including fingerprints and DNA swabs,
• Each computer has a digital fingerprint including the IP of the address it connects from which it connects to the internet, the MAC Address of the networking adapter, hell even the type of OS/Processor/Processor Serial number can be included. Was that computer ever used from his fathers residence in Delaware? The place where he lived in California?

Again, I’m not saying that the email are all false, all true, or a mixture. I’m saying that the laptop appearing in the repair shop of a blind shop owner and then surfacing a month before the election makes the source of the laptop itself suspect.

I know the Trump** supporters want to ignore all other aspects of the sudden appearance of the laptop and talk only about the the emails. If y’all like to be manipulated, that is understandable.

But I’ll bet the FBI has answers to all these questions.

WW