Is white supremacy in central America driving the illegal invasion?

[Sknyluv]

@WuWei

Several of those countries have very good family advocacy organizations. Usually called some form of “bienestar familiar”. Family welfare.

That’s great. You’ll be happy to know then, that the entire point of Harris’ meeting and comments were to enforce the United State’s commitment to helping people in those countries. Not here in America. But direct aid and action within Central America. Addressing the issues in those countries that may then motivate a person to immigrate. And that includes poverty, corruption, and environmental issues.

[zantax]

@WuWei

@Guntsu

@WuWei

Yeah, no you don’t.

Yeah, you think you know but you don’t

Your posts make it obvious

I lived there for 25 years and worked there for another 10, including dealing with Indians. Teribes, Kuna, several in Ecuador. Did a lot of soldiering in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador.

You might want to visit a rez here if you think they have respect and benefits.

Oh, and you might want to go to the border and see who the illegals actually are.

Fleeing their countries, to hang drywall and clean houses.

[WuWei]

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

Ok, but it’s not.

Human Rights Watch has documented cases of LGBTQ people from Central and Latin America fleeing their country because of persecution.

“Every Day I Live in Fear”: Violence and Discrimination Against LGBT People in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras, and Obstacles to Asylum in the United States | HRW

Yep, ran into them down there too. Gave them a little help once.

Now we can assume it was because he was transgender.

[WuWei]

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

Several of those countries have very good family advocacy organizations. Usually called some form of “bienestar familiar”. Family welfare.

That’s great. You’ll be happy to know then, that the entire point of Harris’ meeting and comments were to enforce the United State’s commitment to helping people in those countries. Not here in America. But direct aid and action within Central America. Addressing the issues in those countries that may then motivate a person to immigrate. And that includes poverty, corruption, and environmental issues.

And you’ll be happy to know we’ve been doing that for decades and yet they still come.

[altair1013]

@Sknyluv

Harris didn’t say violence against women/minority groups was a major factor in immigration, just that it was one of the factors.

It was big enough for her to mention it. Which means she puts it in the top three or four reasons.

Are people right now looking for more identity politics babble? Cuz ya know we haven’t had nearly enough of that. Or are they looking for some actual action to stop or at least slow down the border crash?

[WuWei]

Tell me something, what do you feel we can do to those countries to make them more attractive than coming here and disrespecting us?

Why are Californians fleeing paradise? The 4th largest economy in the world? Why do people leave the “City that Never Sleeps” in NY?

[conan]

LOL where did @Guntsu go?

[Sknyluv]

@WuWei

Tell me something, what do you feel we can do to those countries to make them more attractive than coming here and disrespecting us?

There’s always going to be people who want to immigrate to America. You’ll never be able to deter them completely. But if you can address a specific reason why someone might immigrate, like poverty or corruption, then that person might not decide to leave. Is is possible to address poverty on a large scale in Central America? No, but there might be diplomatic or small scale interventions to stem or lessen the flow of immigration.

[Sknyluv]

@altair1013

@Sknyluv

Harris didn’t say violence against women/minority groups was a major factor in immigration, just that it was one of the factors.

It was big enough for her to mention it. Which means she puts it in the top three or four reasons.

Ok. Cool.

[altair1013]

@Sknyluv

There’s always going to be people who want to immigrate to America.

Care to take a stab at this?

Are people right now looking for more identity politics babble? Cuz ya know we haven’t had nearly enough of that. Or are they looking for some actual action to stop or at least slow down the border crash?

[WuWei]

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

Tell me something, what do you feel we can do to those countries to make them more attractive than coming here and disrespecting us?

There’s always going to be people who want to immigrate to America. You’ll never be able to deter them completely. But if you can address a specific reason why someone might immigrate, like poverty or corruption, then that person might not decide to leave. Is is possible to address poverty on a large scale in Central America? No, but there might be diplomatic or small scale interventions to stem or lessen the flow of immigration.

My first trip to “fix” Honduras was in the early 80s. Look at how much we did and gave. Did it make a difference?

Why would they decide not to leave? What small scale intervention?

[WuWei]

@Sknyluv

No, but there might be diplomatic or small scale interventions to stem or lessen the flow of immigration.

Seriously, like what?

[Sknyluv]

@altair1013

@Sknyluv

There’s always going to be people who want to immigrate to America.

Care to take a stab at this?

Are people right now looking for more identity politics babble? Cuz ya know we haven’t had nearly enough of that. Or are they looking for some actual action to stop or at least slow down the border crash?

Brietbart latched on to a portion of Harris’ statement in order to play into identity politics. It worked on you.

[WuWei]

@Sknyluv

@altair1013

@Sknyluv

There’s always going to be people who want to immigrate to America.

Care to take a stab at this?

Are people right now looking for more identity politics babble? Cuz ya know we haven’t had nearly enough of that. Or are they looking for some actual action to stop or at least slow down the border crash?

Brietbart latched on to a portion of Harris’ statement in order to play into identity politics. It worked on you.

It is all an identity.

[Sknyluv]

@WuWei

@Sknyluv

No, but there might be diplomatic or small scale interventions to stem or lessen the flow of immigration.

Seriously, like what?

Idk. I’m not a diplomat. Intervening in the countries these people are coming from should be part of a multifaceted approach that includes border security and asylum reform.

[WuWei]

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

@Sknyluv

No, but there might be diplomatic or small scale interventions to stem or lessen the flow of immigration.

Seriously, like what?

Idk. I’m not a diplomat. Intervening in the countries these people are coming from should be part of a multifaceted approach that includes border security and asylum reform.

Intervening in their country?

Neither is Fweedom. Is a diplomat what we really need to help them?

How? What? Take a stab at it.

[Sknyluv]

@WuWei

Neither is Fweedom. Is a diplomat what we really need to help them?

How? What? Take a stab at it.

Naw, I’m good. I’ll leave it to the professionals.

[WuWei]

@Sknyluv

@WuWei

Neither is Fweedom. Is a diplomat what we really need to help them?

How? What? Take a stab at it.

Naw, I’m good. I’ll leave it to the professionals.

copping out? It’s our money. “Professionals” are why we are where we are.

[Guntsu]

@WuWei

I lived there for 25 years and worked there for another 10, including dealing with Indians. Teribes, Kuna, several in Ecuador. Did a lot of soldiering in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador.

You might want to visit a rez here if you think they have respect and benefits.

Oh, and you might want to go to the border and see who the illegals actually are.

All that experience and still wrong…what a pity

The American Indian is far better then that of the Latin American, they simply do not have the support and are at the absolute bottom of the socioeconomic ladder.

Tribes here have some autonomy, can invest in business and own lands is it perfect? no but its far better then anything an indigenous person receives in central and south america.

https://www.un.org/en/chronicle/article/discrimination-against-indigenous-peoples-latin-american-context

Some of the main rights and liberties that have been denied, distorted or diminished (although the claims are urgent) include:

• recognition by States of the physical and cultural existence of indigenous peoples;
• the right to the real and effective ownership of traditional lands and territories and to the resources (both material and spiritual) that they contain;
• the right of indigenous peoples to have their own understanding of their history;
• the right to participate in and propose policies and projects for development, health, education and other areas;
• the right to have effective mechanisms to protest against or oppose legislation, administrative measures, projects, policies and programmes that have a negative impact on the life, economy or environment of their communities;
• the real and effective recognition of indigenous legal systems and religions, and the contributions that indigenous cultures have made to the progress of humanity, especially in relation to the environment, agriculture, philosophy, mathematics and other fields.

[Guntsu]

@conan

LOL where did @Guntsu go?

I work buddy