Is Venezuela’s government sending its criminals and rioters to the United States?

johnwk2 · 2018-10-24T16:36:09.666Z

AmusedObserver:

johnwk2:

“The President of Honduras told me this was organized by leftist groups in Honduras and financed by Venezuela,” Pence declared. A senior administration official confirmed to The Daily Caller a call took place between Hernandez and Pence regarding the migration situation.”

Just to clarify, is this the same “Pence” who defended Trump’s assertion (before he walked it back, that is) about Middle Easterners in the caravan? Same guy?

What does your post have to do with what the President of Honduras told Vice President Pence, that this invasion was organized by leftist groups in Honduras and financed by Venezuela?

JWK

Our federal government is granted power “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions”.

johnwk2 · 2018-10-24T19:54:51.570Z

johnwk2:

Vice President Pence is lying that the President of Honduras told him this invasion was organized by leftist groups in Honduras and financed by Venezuela?

Tilly_jow:

PizzaReverend:

Considering the myriad of clear lies we had in the last 24 hours alone, you’ll forgive me if I assume Pence is lying too.

And if it has anything negative to do with Venezuela, you can be sure Cratic will repeat it, regardless of whether it is true or not…

Are you suggesting the President of Honduras did not tell Pence this caravan invasion was organized by leftist groups in Honduras and financed by Venezuela?

JWK

Our federal government is granted power “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions”.

Tilly_jow · 2018-10-24T20:21:46.647Z

johnwk2:

johnwk2:

Vice President Pence is lying that the President of Honduras told him this invasion was organized by leftist groups in Honduras and financed by Venezuela?

Tilly_jow:

PizzaReverend:

Considering the myriad of clear lies we had in the last 24 hours alone, you’ll forgive me if I assume Pence is lying too.

And if it has anything negative to do with Venezuela, you can be sure Cratic will repeat it, regardless of whether it is true or not…

Are you suggesting the President of Honduras did not tell Pence this caravan invasion was organized by leftist groups in Honduras and financed by Venezuela?

JWK

I’m sure President of Honduras knows what suckers Trump and members of his admin. are at repeating unsubstantiated accusations. And how, just as eagerly, Trump sycophants will repeat them not questioning whether they are true or not.

johnwk2 · 2018-10-24T21:50:10.018Z

Tilly_jow:

johnwk2:

johnwk2:

Vice President Pence is lying that the President of Honduras told him this invasion was organized by leftist groups in Honduras and financed by Venezuela?

Tilly_jow:

PizzaReverend:

Considering the myriad of clear lies we had in the last 24 hours alone, you’ll forgive me if I assume Pence is lying too.

And if it has anything negative to do with Venezuela, you can be sure Cratic will repeat it, regardless of whether it is true or not…

Are you suggesting the President of Honduras did not tell Pence this caravan invasion was organized by leftist groups in Honduras and financed by Venezuela?

JWK

I’m sure President of Honduras knows what suckers Trump and members of his admin. are at repeating unsubstantiated accusations. And how, just as eagerly, Trump sycophants will repeat them not questioning whether they are true or not.

Oh come now. At least agree that Venezuela’s government benefits by ridding itself of thousands upon thousands of rioters and protestors.

Are you too young to remember Castro’s Mariel boatlift which he used to rid himself of criminals, sexual perverts, lunatics and protestors to his communism?

JWK

Our federal government is granted power “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions”.

BlueTex · 2018-10-24T21:54:20.791Z

johnwk2:

Oh come now. At least agree that Venezuela’s government benefits by ridding itself of thousands upon thousands of rioters and protestors.

Are you too young to remember Castro’s Mariel boatlift which he used to rid himself of criminals, sexual perverts, lunatics and protestors to his communism?

JWK

How do you suppose these thousands and thousands of rioters and protesters got from Venezuela to Honduras?

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Tilly_jow · 2018-10-24T22:01:18.495Z

johnwk2:

Oh come now. At least agree that Venezuela’s government benefits by ridding itself of thousands upon thousands of rioters and protestors.

Are you too young to remember Castro’s Mariel boatlift which he used to rid himself of criminals, sexual perverts, lunatics and protestors to his communism?

You’re comparing apples to watermelons. And the President of Honduras knows you guys will fall for stupid comparisons if he pushes the right buttons and you fell for it…no proof needed.

If the President of Honduras was so certain, why didn’t he produce proof?

CanadianJudo · 2018-10-24T22:03:02.977Z

Because Honduras is such a great country no one would every wish to leave.

CanadianJudo · 2018-10-24T22:03:53.114Z

Tilly_jow:

You’re comparing apples to watermelons. And the President of Honduras you guys will fall for stupid comparisons if he pushes the right buttons and you fell for it…no proof needed.

Also he is trying to avoid the conservation about the horrible human right violation by his government and police force.

adroit · 2018-10-24T22:08:51.583Z

BlueTex:

How do you suppose these thousands and thousands of rioters and protesters got from Venezuela to Honduras?

They totally walked those 3000km which includes some trekking through wilderness.

AmusedObserver · 2018-10-25T01:15:53.264Z

johnwk2:

What does your post have to do with what the President of Honduras told Vice President Pence, that this invasion was organized by leftist groups in Honduras and financed by Venezuela?

Correction: what Pence claims the Honduran President told him. My post shows that Pence is hardly a reliable witness here.

Not surprising, as Pence has shown that his moral compass spins so quickly it would make an Olympic figure skater dizzy.

johnwk2 · 2018-10-25T12:12:39.768Z

BlueTex:

johnwk2:

Oh come now. At least agree that Venezuela’s government benefits by ridding itself of thousands upon thousands of rioters and protestors.

Are you too young to remember Castro’s Mariel boatlift which he used to rid himself of criminals, sexual perverts, lunatics and protestors to his communism?

JWK

How do you suppose these thousands and thousands of rioters and protesters got from Venezuela to Honduras?

The same way the thousands and thousands involved in the Mariel boatlift got to the United States from Cuba ___ by an appropriate means of transportation.

JWK

Our federal government is granted power “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions”.

BlueTex · 2018-10-25T12:15:36.436Z

johnwk2:

The same way the thousands and thousands involved in the Mariel boatlift got to the United States from Cuba ___ by an appropriate means of transportation.

JWK

Our federal government is granted power “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions”.

So thousands and thousands of Venezuelan rioters and protesters left their country, by some mode of transportation and traveled the thousands of kilometers to Honduras to then walk on foot to the US? Hmmm… call me skeptical…

Where are all those Cuban’s from the Mariel boatlift today?

johnwk2 · 2018-10-25T21:21:15.778Z

BlueTex:

johnwk2:

The same way the thousands and thousands involved in the Mariel boatlift got to the United States from Cuba ___ by an appropriate means of transportation.

JWK

Our federal government is granted power “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions”.

So thousands and thousands of Venezuelan rioters and protesters left their country,

You are not paying attention. They were probably encouraged to leave and provided traveling expenses.

JWK

adroit · 2018-10-25T21:24:43.637Z

johnwk2:

You are not paying attention. The were probably encouraged to leave and provided traveling expenses.

Or, you know, the simpler answer - the thousands in the caravan aren’t Venezuelans sent by their government.

Impenitent · 2018-10-25T21:58:36.051Z

ask Elian Gonzales

BlueTex · 2018-10-25T23:29:45.231Z

Impenitent:

ask Elian Gonzales

Elian came 20 years after the boat lift… Never let a little history get in the way… LOL

johnwk2 · 2018-10-26T12:28:18.938Z

adroit:

Or, you know, the simpler answer - the thousands in the caravan aren’t Venezuelans sent by their government.

Well, we can engage in worthless table talk all day. But the fact remains, there is an ongoing invasion at the southern border of the United States. President Trump needs to step up and repel this invasion as required by our Constitution.

I believe the most humane way of discouraging these invaders is The Active Denial System

JWK

American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance the economic needs of millions of poverty stricken, poorly educated, low and unskilled aliens who have invaded America’s borders.

johnwk2 · 2018-10-26T22:01:53.684Z

Impenitent:

ask Elian Gonzales

Blue Tex ignores the suffering under the communist government of Cuba. In fact, there are many like Andrew Gillum who is running to be Florida’s next governor who want to create a Cuban style socialist/communist system here!

JWK

The unavoidable truth is, Andrew Gillum and the Democrat Leadership’s socialist plan for “free” college tuition will be paid for by taxing millions of college graduates who worked for and paid their own way through college and are now trying to finance their own economic needs

BlueTex · 2018-10-27T01:25:23.017Z

johnwk2:

Blue Tex ignores the suffering under the communist government of Cuba. In fact, there are many like Andrew Gillum who is running to be Florida’s next governor who want to create a Cuban style socialist/communist system here!

JWK

The unavoidable truth is, Andrew Gillum and the Democrat Leadership’s socialist plan for “free” college tuition will be paid for by taxing millions of college graduates who worked for and paid their own way through college and are now trying to finance their own economic needs

I’m not ignoring anything, especially the calendar,… The Mariel boat lift was 20 years before Elian Gonzales… The refugees from the Mariel boat mostly settled in the Miami area and have been reliable GOP voters for years…

johnwk2 · 2018-10-27T12:53:01.906Z

BlueTex:

johnwk2:

Blue Tex ignores the suffering under the communist government of Cuba. In fact, there are many like Andrew Gillum who is running to be Florida’s next governor who want to create a Cuban style socialist/communist system here!

JWK

The unavoidable truth is, Andrew Gillum and the Democrat Leadership’s socialist plan for “free” college tuition will be paid for by taxing millions of college graduates who worked for and paid their own way through college and are now trying to finance their own economic needs

I’m not ignoring anything, especially the calendar,… The Mariel boat lift was 20 years before Elian Gonzales… The refugees from the Mariel boat mostly settled in the Miami area and have been reliable GOP voters for years…

Yes you are ignoring something. You are ignoring the suffering under the communist government of Cuba, which includes its communist/socialist health care system which our Democrat Leadership wants to impose upon the people of the United States.

JWK

The unavoidable truth is, Andrew Gillum and the Democrat Leadership’s socialist plan for “free” college tuition will be paid for by taxing millions of college graduates who worked for and paid their own way through college and are now trying to finance their own economic needs