I clicked on the link to the Times article in the link you provided in Post #1 of your OP, and the correction is noted at the bottom of the article I clicked on.
This makes the article’s headline incorrect, and and anyone who ran with it incorrect as well.
The fact that you think that because Manafort asked Kilimnik to give the data to 2 pro-Russia Ukrainians instead of directly to the Kremlin proves there was no collusion is totes adorable.
You are correct about the link at the bottom of the page, but how can you decide that Manafort giving the data to Kilimnik is NOT collusion with the Russians eludes all logic.
And beyond that, let’s see what comes out about the two Ukranians. We kept hearing the Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer whom Donald Trump Jr. and Jared K. met with in the Trump Tower meeting was a private citizen with no connections to the Russian government. Now she’s been indicted on charges or arranging money laundering for Russian oligarchs using US real estate deals.
The good thing about the Times, unlike the Conservative Entertainment Complex, is that it does admit errors.
I have no idea if or why they lied. Neither has been proved. If they committed an illegal activity why hasn’t Mueller charged them for it? So far it’s all been for “lying.” After over two years we still have no allegations of criminal activity. Zero. Maybe next month we will see them?
The disinformation campaign waged on behalf of Donald Trump was highly targeted. Internal candidate polling (I did this for a while in a previous career) is much more detailed than the polls you see in the newspaper. (For example, in supporting an incumbent mayor we would ask "Is there anything Mayor _____ could do that would get you to vote for him in the upcoming election?)
The best documented example of Russian targeting to date was a campaign to drive up voting for Jill Stein in Wisconsin. Stein’s strong showing there may well have been the reason the state went to Trump and was a critical state in Trump’s victory.
The thing that astounds me about the Trump supporters on this thread is that they don’t recognize that Trump will be such a more effective President if he wins the 2020 election without this taint of corruption. Such a victory would give him a mandate for the wall, which is what they should want. If Trump is innocent we should follow every lead as a means of proving his innocence and enhancing his Presidency.
But Trump’s supporters seem very fearful of what is to be found if we look to closely at Trump, his associates, his tax returns and so forth.
What their fear suggests seems obvious. Personally I prefer America as the home of the brave, but the Republican Party seems to want us to be the home of the terrified, huddled behind walls, asking no questions, and knowing as little as possible. #SAD
using that Don JR. is shacked up with ex-Fox New personality Guilfoyle…like, he left his wife for a symbol of this new, Fox supported life his father dragged him into…and now he might go to jail.