How much of federal government spending is pensions? You aren’t putting out any actual numbers here…
Making people responsible for their own retirement would cause a depression? Wow, Scary stuff! 
Ready for brilliant idea #3?
Tell the department of education that they will be shut down in 3 years. That should give everyone a chance to find other work. And probably 10 to 20 percent may be able to retire by then anyway. The D.O.E serves no real purpose anyway. Nobody gets educated by the federal government. It’s all done by state and local systems.
BTW, if you don’t like my ideas for 2009, would you favor them for 2020?
Ready for number 4?
Yes, keep telling everyone how in 2009 you would have cut 10,000s if not 100,000s of jobs from the government, and cut pensions, to somehow magically close the $1.3trillion deficit and not send us into a depression.
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Dems reduce the deficit, repubs increase it. So yep one is better than the other. You can’t admit that repubs are worse than dems.
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Ok, there goes another 10,000+ jobs not taking into account multiplier effects and unemployment benefits. Thats about $50bil in savings. You still have another $900billion to go! Remember, it’s 2009, we just about had a total financial collapse and were losing 800k jobs a month befire you decided to gut the government and worker pensions.
And yes, a great time to cut the DOE when everyone is losing their jobs and need help paying for school / retraining.
Great plan there
So far I haven’t cut a single job. I would simply stop hiring for those agencies and use the employees to fill vacancies in critical government agencies. I’ve also made new hires responsible for their own retirement. Just as you are.
I really don’t put much stock into liberal doom and gloom scenarios. Remember how they all predicted an economic catastrophe if Trump was elected? How did that work out?
My 4th move would be the elimination of:
The national endowment for the arts.
The national endowment for the humanities.
And NPR.
These are not critical functions of government.
This is a target rich environment. Ready for #5?
BTW, if you don’t like my ideas for 2009, would you favor them for 2020?
You can’t admit that they both suck? Really, really bad?
You just said you’d get rid of a bunch of agencies and pension programs in 2009. Remember? I asked you how you would tackle the $1.2trillion deficit. And still your plan is adding close to a trillion to the debt.
$850 billion to go from $1.2trillion. That’s a pretty nasty deficit, sounds like your ideas are still adding a lot to the debt in 2009. Hmmm. It’s almost like there’s this thing called reality.
Btw, do you have any actual numbers? Sounds like you just “feel” like gutting all these agencies and pensions would significantly reduce federal spending.
Did I say I was done? And you make the mistake of thinking all of this needs to be done in one year. I never claimed that. The national debt took decades to create. It will take decades to fix. We have to start by getting away from the notion that government can never be reduced. It musk always be increased. Both democrats’ and republicans share this idiotic thinking.
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It’s almost like youre saying the first step is to tackle the deficit???
Are you asking? If you were asking, I would say the first step is to quit the mindless growth of government. That would be the best way to bring down the debt. There is simply not enough taxable income in the country to do the job. Understand?
Except only Democratic presidents have reduced the deficit
No, you are talking about how cutting the deficit will take decades. Now that is funny.
Obama cut federal spending as a % of GDP.
Nope. You speak with forked tongue. I said cut spending. Period. And since you cannot respect my actual words, this conversation is over. Want the last word? Too bad, you ain’t gonna get it. Bye.
The whole point of cutting spending is to reduce the deficit. And you’re saying you can’t close a $1.2trillion deficit in 2009 and it will take decades?
Wow, sounds like you’re plan is just as bad as everything else, especially taking into account you think cutting GDP by 10%+ during a financial crisis is a good idea
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Yep they both suck, this doesn’t change the fact that Dems reduce the deficit, repubs increase it. So yep one is better than the other. And you STILL can’t admit that repubs are worse than dems.
Because suddenly, there’s a surplus! Why do you think Social Security is in trouble? Because when additional money was being taken out to cover the Boomers, government saw a “surplus”, “borrowed” the money, then kicked the can down the road instead of paying it back. They do the same thing over and over and yet people keep voting them in and expecting them to act differently because well, they promised they would? I guess when election time rolls around it’s a magic reset and everyone forgets about the promises they broke after the previous election.
