Is this really the tax plan that you want?

[LucyLou]

@altair1013

@LucyLou

Meanwhile, under Donald, rising deficits and massive debt, trillions more in military spending.

Oh good God. Nobody cares. Liberals suddenly become deficit hawks when they are not in power. Occasionally we see a slight trend in deficits. Who cares? It does nothing. Politicians have spent the past 50 years running up the debt. I have given up hope. Nobody is interested in facing this. Give me the name of the candidate that has a serious national debt reduction plan. I’ll wait.

Good Lord. There it is.

[gooddad409]

@Jezcoe

@gooddad409

@Jezcoe

@gooddad409

@ImRightYoureWrong

@adroit

This fear mongering around “$3 trillion in new taxes!” is just smoke and mirrors—WE ALREADY PAY THIS ■■■■■■■ AMOUNT OUT OF OUR OWN POCKETS TO PRIVATE INSURANCE AND OUT-OF-POCKET MEDICAL EXPENSES! And it’s disproportionately paid by the middle class. It’s time we shift the burden and get on a system that is more efficient, covers everyone and is less expensive. And, you know, doesn’t bankrupt hundreds of thousands and result in 10,000s of thousands of premature deaths.

I was just going to post something like this. I pay $400 / month for premiums out of my pocket. Tax increases need to be taken in the context of current premium payments and employer matches being removed.

400 isn’t bad. Not bad at all. I used to pay about 350 per month when i was on my former employer’s plan.

Now I am on medicare and BCBS and still pay about 350 a month.

The difference now is i can’t get everything i could on the employers plan.

I hear medicare doesn’t go for knee replacements or hip replacements for example.

My elderly father has gotten one knee replaced. Getting the other one done later this month.

So…

Really? Is he on medicare?

Yes.

He is elderly.

Interesting. I still don’t trust them. I think my mom would still be here if not for them.

Don’t care to go into all the details.

[altair1013]

@H_Arendt

Go to the campaign websites and you can find detailed plans.

I won’t. I don’t care about plans. They have no right to punish me for their lack of discipline. It’s a joke. People need to learn how to think for themselves. Anyone who thinks that their own party has done a good job with the national debt. Is not thinking for themselves.

[adroit]

@altair1013

I won’t. I don’t care about plans.

You literally just made a thread based on made up, conservative think tank strawman plans…

[ImRightYoureWrong]

@altair1013

It’s a joke. People need to learn how to think for themselves. Anyone who thinks that their own party has done a good job with the national debt. Is not thinking for themselves.

There’s only 2 parties whose presidents have massively decreased the deficits they inherited which is the first step. Guess which…

[gooddad409]

@ImRightYoureWrong

@gooddad409

Bush’s last deficit was about 460 billion. Obama ran trillion plus deficits for several years.

Obama inherited a roughly $1.3trillion deficit and 800k jobs being lost a month

The last deficit before Obama was about 460 billion.

Plus it took Obama forever to help stabilize the economy (that’s what happens when a person clueless about the economy and business gets elected).

Slowest recovery since the Great Depression i hear.

[WCD9973]

Defict trends are worthless if debt still rises??
Do you understand the 2?
You cant stop increasing the debt until deficit is negaitive. So that statement makes zero sense.
It’s like saying “trying to spend less is pointless while I’m still in debt”.
It’s wrong. You cant address the debt until you eliminate the deficit. And you can’t eliminate the defict without first cutting it.

[ImRightYoureWrong]

@gooddad409

Plus it took Obama forever to help stabilize the economy (that’s what happens when a person clueless about the economy and business gets elected).

The economy stabalized pretty rapidly. Did you know unemployment dropped faster under Obama than Reagan?

[ImRightYoureWrong]

@WCD9973

Defict trends are worthless if debt still rises??
Do you understand the 2?
You cant stop increasing the debt until deficit is negaitive. So that statement makes zero sense.
It’s like saying “trying to spend less is pointless while I’m still in debt”.
It’s wrong. You cant address the debt until you eliminate the deficit. And you can’t eliminate the defict without first cutting it.

It’s like blaming the fire fighters that your house is half burnt after you lit it on fire

[gooddad409]

@ImRightYoureWrong

@gooddad409

Plus it took Obama forever to help stabilize the economy (that’s what happens when a person clueless about the economy and business gets elected).

The economy stabalized pretty rapidly. Did you know unemployment dropped faster under Obama than Reagan?

Rapidly? Amazing the bs some folks buy into.

[ImRightYoureWrong]

Yes. Unemployment stabalized pretty rapidly given the depths of losses at the height of the crisis.

Faster than Reagan, in fact

[WCD9973]

@ImRightYoureWrong

Yes. Unemployment stabalized pretty rapidly given the depths of losses at the height of the crisis.

Facts have a liberal bias! You gonna believe facts and stats, or Trump Rally’s?? Come on!

[hindsight]

Listen, your silly facts don’t stand a chance against the mighty genius of Donald Trump.

[Demon]

Are you on a supplement, or an advantage plan?

[adroit]

@gooddad409

The last deficit before Obama was about 460 billion.

Plus it took Obama forever to help stabilize the economy (that’s what happens when a person clueless about the economy and business gets elected).

Slowest recovery since the Great Depression i hear.

This is empirically false. Obama entered office with a FY2009 deficit projected at 1.2 trillion based on the policy and conditions in place prior to him even swearing in. I guess you’ll just claim the CBO was lying in their Jan 7th, 2009 report?

[H_Arendt]

@altair1013

@H_Arendt

Go to the campaign websites and you can find detailed plans.

I won’t. I don’t care about plans. They have no right to punish me for their lack of discipline. It’s a joke. People need to learn how to think for themselves. Anyone who thinks that their own party has done a good job with the national debt. Is not thinking for themselves.

You claim you don’t care about plans but you initiated this thread to discuss a series of plans. Do you often initiate conversations about topics you have no interest in?

[Adam]

@H_Arendt

@altair1013

@H_Arendt

Go to the campaign websites and you can find detailed plans.

I won’t. I don’t care about plans. They have no right to punish me for their lack of discipline. It’s a joke. People need to learn how to think for themselves. Anyone who thinks that their own party has done a good job with the national debt. Is not thinking for themselves.

You claim you don’t care about plans but you initiated this thread to discuss a series of plans. Do you often initiate conversations about topics you have no interest in?

Pretty much yeah.

[highroller]

It’s the deep state!

[altair1013]

@H_Arendt

You claim you don’t care about plans but you initiated this thread to discuss a series of plans. Do you often initiate conversations about topics you have no interest in?

Yes all the time! What are you gonna do about it?

[highroller]

Personally my tax strategy will be to raise taxes until matched spending or lower spending until the matched taxes as of today. I would then put a special assessment on each state based on the population and they will have to come up with their populations share of the national debt for the next 10 years. If they don’t want to pay that’s too bad they have to pay it. We are going to get out of debt.

Unfortunately this would not be popular therefore my party would never be elected.

As for the tax structure afterwards, All income gain from labor would be taxed at 0%. Capital gains would be taxed at a higher rate than they are now. And short term capital gains will be taxed at 90%.