Is the war in Ukraine a "fight to save democracy"?

Supreme_War_Pig · 2022-03-29T02:43:40.190Z

CanadianJudo:

WuWei:

Supreme_War_Pig:

conan:

And that is what I original said. Ukraine is not a democracy…and I said many libs here specially Nancy Pelosi doesn’t know what democracy is.

Yeah, and you are wrong. They vote in Ukraine. A revolution didn’t change that.

They vote in Venezuela, Cuba, Russia…

Ukraine has become quite less corrupt since 2019

almost like the current President ran his whole campaign on the fact he was not controlled by oligarch and he would remove their control over the country.

which he did when he had the DA charge Poroskenko with illegal trading with the separatist and passed anti-oligarch laws and created a new task force to deal with oligarch corruption.

There were links posted previously that alleged financial corruption by Z. I can’t speak to their accuracy, but one could reasonably surmise that financial corruption could also imply electoral corruption. However, I have not found any evidence that happened.

Gaius · 2022-03-29T10:29:54.215Z

Call_me_Ishmael:

Supreme_War_Pig:

conan:

Ukraine is not a democracy…and Nancy Pelosi doesn’t know what democracy is let along what is a republic.

Interesting. What type of government do you think Ukraine has?

It’s the same as ours… the president is installed by the minions of George Soros.

Why do you ask?

Once you call something “not a democracy” it becomes okay to jail and shoot people for defending it.

That is exactly precisely the how and why of that comment. If you can’t win at the voting booth say “It’s not a democracy” then your non-democratic means are justified.

WuWei · 2022-03-29T10:50:04.017Z

Who financed his campaign.

WuWei · 2022-03-29T10:50:32.177Z

No it hasn’t. Ukraine is a washing machine.

Call_me_Ishmael · 2022-03-29T12:56:25.157Z

Gaius:

Call_me_Ishmael:

Supreme_War_Pig:

conan:

Ukraine is not a democracy…and Nancy Pelosi doesn’t know what democracy is let along what is a republic.

Interesting. What type of government do you think Ukraine has?

It’s the same as ours… the president is installed by the minions of George Soros.

Why do you ask?

Once you call something “not a democracy” it becomes okay to jail and shoot people for defending it.

That is exactly precisely the how and why of that comment. If you can’t win at the voting booth say “It’s not a democracy” then your non-democratic means are justified.

…sounds like justification for censoring speech and canceling anyone who utters the words “stolen election”.

Call_me_Ishmael · 2022-03-29T13:07:17.875Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

There were links posted previously that alleged financial corruption by Z. I can’t speak to their accuracy, but one could reasonably surmise that financial corruption could also imply electoral corruption. However, I have not found any evidence that happened.

Before the evidence of corruption was posted, you used the same defense

“…have not found any evidence that happened.”

And after the proof is provided - which it might be if Russia gets ahold of the records in Ukraine, I expect you to say:

There were links posted that provided evidence of electoral corruption in Ukraine. I can’t speak to their accuracy, but one could reasonably surmise that Z was cognizant of that corruption. However, I have not found any evidence that he was".

Now in that you might be correct. I’m sure no one told your hero, Joe Biden, that his presidency is a sham… a lie… a result of devious electoral corruption. The pudding head is oblivious to reality. Zelensky was chosen by Soros for the same reason… bubbleheadedness and thus 100% dependent on the experts provided by Soros.

Bosun · 2022-03-30T04:50:29.520Z

Zskyy should have done better but I smell bull ■■■■ is some of the power brokers.

Bosun · 2022-03-30T04:53:19.506Z

Don’t speak. That wod be nice.

Bosun · 2022-03-30T04:55:32.649Z

Ukraine was voted country of the year and Zskyy was voted best prez if the year.

Bosun · 2022-03-30T04:57:31.202Z

Google works great. Believe whatever you find on the internet. Its gotta be true because Google said so.

zantax · 2022-03-30T12:04:05.627Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

conan:

And that is what I original said. Ukraine is not a democracy…and I said many libs here specially Nancy Pelosi doesn’t know what democracy is.

Yeah, and you are wrong. They vote in Ukraine. A revolution didn’t change that.

Hard to call it a democracy when they lock up the political opposition.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2022-03-30T12:44:37.965Z

zantax:

Supreme_War_Pig:

conan:

And that is what I original said. Ukraine is not a democracy…and I said many libs here specially Nancy Pelosi doesn’t know what democracy is.

Yeah, and you are wrong. They vote in Ukraine. A revolution didn’t change that.

Hard to call it a democracy when they lock up the political opposition.

They are a democracy.

Hey, look at that! Turns out it’s not hard at all.

zantax · 2022-03-30T12:50:43.640Z

Supreme_War_Pig:

zantax:

Supreme_War_Pig:

conan:

And that is what I original said. Ukraine is not a democracy…and I said many libs here specially Nancy Pelosi doesn’t know what democracy is.

Yeah, and you are wrong. They vote in Ukraine. A revolution didn’t change that.

Hard to call it a democracy when they lock up the political opposition.

They are a democracy.

Hey, look at that! Turns out it’s not hard at all.

How many of the opposition have been jailed?

JONATHAN TURLEY – 21 Mar 22

Zelenskyy Bans Opposition Parties in Ukraine in Blow to Free Speech

Many of us strongly support the fight of Ukraine against the Russian invasion and have commended Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy for the heroic leadership that he has shown in the face of t…

Supreme_War_Pig · 2022-03-30T12:59:06.181Z

Meh. When you country is actively being invaded, sometimes there are enemies foreign and domestic.

Doesn’t change the fact that they are a democracy.

Hey, lookie there: I did it again.

conan · 2022-03-30T13:30:53.437Z

He’s banning opposition parties…that’s what libs here in our country wants to do.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2022-03-30T13:33:01.986Z

conan:

He’s banning opposition parties…that’s what libs here in our country wants to do.

Who? What Libs are calling for that?

conan · 2022-03-30T13:35:31.416Z

So conservatives aren’t being banned from platforms…or libs aren’t advocating banning/punishing those that went to Jan 6th event.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2022-03-30T13:40:03.539Z

conan:

So conservatives aren’t being banned from platforms…or libs aren’t advocating banning/punishing those that went to Jan 6th event.

I didn’t say that. You said:

conan:

He’s banning opposition parties…that’s what libs here in our country wants to do

And I asked:

Supreme_War_Pig:

Who? What Libs are calling for that?

conan · 2022-03-30T13:40:54.794Z

Google is libs friend.

Supreme_War_Pig · 2022-03-30T13:48:09.616Z

conan:

Google is libs friend.

I see. This is one of those things where I am to take you seriously, not literally.

For those of you playing the home game, please make note: the poster made a claim, I asked for details, the poster than tried to gaslight me, I restated the question, and now the poster is trying to elide the unproven claim while turning it back on me.