Is the term "white privilege" a racial slur?

TheDoctorIsIn · 2022-11-03T21:44:59.041Z

Samm:

That response demonstrates that you don’t understand that everyone is protected, just some more than others. (Ref. to Animal Farm)

I understand what you’re saying. You’re just wrong.

You don’t understand how the law works.

But don’t let me keep you from imagining how victimized you are.

Striker840 · 2022-11-03T21:46:42.616Z

TheDoctorIsIn:

Striker840:

I have NEVER claimed to be an expert, SME, “I do this for a living”, etc. How do we know you really are a lawyer?

You don’t.

How do I know that you’re not a 13-year-old posting from your mother’s basement - or a Russian disinformation agent, or a cult member, or a drug addict?

You don’t, but PRETTY sure a 13 year old could remember the Reagan assassination attempt, Iranian Hostages, hell 9/11 and the weather that day and what radio station I was listening to when the news broke.
Please show ANY post of mine that is ANYTHING like Bill.in.PA, some say being a Marine IS being a cult member, and for as many years I have been on pain meds for knees and back, yea my body is addicted to meds. Beside the fact that at least one poster knows me on FB.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2022-11-03T21:47:49.868Z

Samm:

No, I don’t own a company, but I did a fair amount of hiring. I know the rules and the expectation of the company in applying them. The reality is precisely what I have described.

Clearly, you don’t know “the rules.” As for the “expectations” of the company you worked for - are you currently blowing the whistle on their illegal hiring practices?

TheDoctorIsIn · 2022-11-03T21:48:44.861Z

Striker840:

You don’t, but PRETTY sure a 13 year old could remember the Reagan assassination attempt, Iranian Hostages, hell 9/11 and the weather that day and what radio station I was listening to when the news broke.
Please show ANY post of mine that is ANYTHING like Bill.in.PA, some say being a Marine IS being a cult member, and for as many years I have been on pain meds for knees and back, yea my body is addicted to meds. Beside the fact that at least one poster knows me on FB.

You’re missing my point.

This is the internet. Everything posted here could be a lie.

PurpnGold · 2022-11-03T21:56:55.625Z

Samm:

Most white males run their companies with an abundance of caution to comply with the law. Particularly ambiguous laws like EEO laws. The law does not establish a pecking order, but there most certainly is one because there is so much subjectivity when dealing with hiring and promotions in a work place. Those white men in charge are rue to get crosswise with the law and overcompensate to avoid trouble that will divert energy from running the company.

And when the company ran by white males gets in trouble… the lawyers and/or arbitrators are likely also white males.

Basically I’m challenging the notion that white male cannot get a fair shot in a discrimination case because they are the majority.

However that doesn’t seem to make sense… as a matter of fact… them being the majority is the exact reason why they SHOULD feel comfortable filing a discrimination case.

Striker840 · 2022-11-03T22:04:54.062Z

TheDoctorIsIn:

Striker840:

You don’t, but PRETTY sure a 13 year old could remember the Reagan assassination attempt, Iranian Hostages, hell 9/11 and the weather that day and what radio station I was listening to when the news broke.
Please show ANY post of mine that is ANYTHING like Bill.in.PA, some say being a Marine IS being a cult member, and for as many years I have been on pain meds for knees and back, yea my body is addicted to meds. Beside the fact that at least one poster knows me on FB.

You’re missing my point.

This is the internet. Everything posted here could be a lie.

Not missing your point, you proved mine. Yet you expect us all to bow to your “expertise” in the law and not question you, YET, you just said everything posted could be a lie. So, why should we take what you say as fact, when you just said it could be a lie.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2022-11-03T22:09:34.036Z

Striker840:

Not missing your point, you proved mine. Yet you expect us all to bow to your “expertise” in the law and not question you, YET, you just said everything posted could be a lie. So, why should we take what you say as fact, when you just said it could be a lie.

I’m not asking for you to “bow” to me - I don’t care if you believe me or not. If it makes you feel better to dismiss my posts, so be it.

What I’m saying is, “But you could be lying!” isn’t an argument - it’s a cop-out.

NJBob · 2022-11-03T22:11:16.713Z

TheDoctorIsIn:

Striker840:

I have NEVER claimed to be an expert, SME, “I do this for a living”, etc. How do we know you really are a lawyer?

You don’t.

How do I know that you’re not a 13-year-old posting from your mother’s basement - or a Russian disinformation agent, or a cult member, or a drug addict?

Don’t we already have one of those?

TheDoctorIsIn · 2022-11-03T22:12:18.246Z

NJBob:

Don’t we already have one of those?

I doubt it.

This board isn’t important.

Striker840 · 2022-11-03T22:26:14.691Z

TheDoctorIsIn:

NJBob:

Don’t we already have one of those?

I doubt it.

This board isn’t important.

You are uninformed

Striker840 · 2022-11-03T22:26:26.723Z

NJBob:

TheDoctorIsIn:

Striker840:

I have NEVER claimed to be an expert, SME, “I do this for a living”, etc. How do we know you really are a lawyer?

You don’t.

How do I know that you’re not a 13-year-old posting from your mother’s basement - or a Russian disinformation agent, or a cult member, or a drug addict?

Don’t we already have one of those?

Haha yep

Striker840 · 2022-11-03T22:27:24.245Z

TheDoctorIsIn:

Striker840:

Not missing your point, you proved mine. Yet you expect us all to bow to your “expertise” in the law and not question you, YET, you just said everything posted could be a lie. So, why should we take what you say as fact, when you just said it could be a lie.

I’m not asking for you to “bow” to me - I don’t care if you believe me or not. If it makes you feel better to dismiss my posts, so be it.

What I’m saying is, “But you could be lying!” isn’t an argument - it’s a cop-out.

If ANYONE disagrees with you, you trot out the “I am a lawyer” card and get all pissy…funny actually

TheDoctorIsIn · 2022-11-03T22:47:45.424Z

Striker840:

If ANYONE disagrees with you, you trot out the “I am a lawyer” card and get all pissy…funny actually

Well, that’s really a matter of perspective, isnt it?

From where I sit, this is how this has all played out:

You stormed into this thread, simultaneously disparaging everyone else’s position and declaring “how it really is:”

Striker840:

I sooooo love all of these “I am a hiring manager”, “I was a GM”, etc…yet have no clue how it really is. I don’t give a damn what the law says, companies know that someone won’t file a lawsuit over this because the cost in time, stress, etc just isn’t worth it.

I responded to your dramatically confident statement of authority with one of my own:

TheDoctorIsIn:

I represent employees in their discrimination claims against their employers for a living.

Please, tell me more about “how it really is.”

From there, it is just devolved to the aforementioned “but you might be lying!:”

Striker840:

Sure you do, let me guess…you NEVER lose either

TheDoctorIsIn:

Of course we lose some cases, that’s how it goes. You can only work with the facts you have.

What about this is so difficult for you to believe?

Striker840:

That almost every time the same posters are “experts” in seemingly every topic discussed. I HIGHLY doubt that is true. Excuse me if I have a hard time believing ANYONE on a forum is a SME on so many things. You claim to be a lawyer, why should someone believe you?

…and so on.

You didn’t “disagree” with me in a meaning way - you didn’t present a counter-argument, or even dispute what I said - you just went straight to “maybe you’re lying!”

Striker840 · 2022-11-04T00:04:36.167Z

Stormed in huh…wow.
Dude I know you think you are all that, but you’re not. Your just another anonymous poster with a high opinion of yourself.

You are constantly saying “thats not how it works” etc, immediately discounting the other poster. You know how it works when YOU are involved, doesn’t mean thats how it works everywhere REGARDLESS of what the law says.

TheDoctorIsIn · 2022-11-04T00:47:29.887Z

Striker840:

Dude I know you think you are all that, but you’re not. Your just another anonymous poster with a high opinion of yourself.

Yep. 100%.

Striker840:

You are constantly saying “thats not how it works” etc, immediately discounting the other poster. You know how it works when YOU are involved, doesn’t mean thats how it works everywhere REGARDLESS of what the law says.

You’re right, that’s pretty much what I do - I describe how it works. But I am always open to - seeking, even - a counter-argument.

The whole point of “the law” is that it’s how it always works, not just when I’m personally involved.

Samm · 2022-11-04T09:51:58.837Z

TheDoctorIsIn:

Samm:

That response demonstrates that you don’t understand that everyone is protected, just some more than others. (Ref. to Animal Farm)

I understand what you’re saying. You’re just wrong.

You don’t understand how the law works.

But don’t let me keep you from imagining how victimized you are.

I am not wrong. Everyone’s protection under the law is NOT equal. Not by a long shot.

Samm · 2022-11-04T09:54:10.112Z

TheDoctorIsIn:

Samm:

No, I don’t own a company, but I did a fair amount of hiring. I know the rules and the expectation of the company in applying them. The reality is precisely what I have described.

Clearly, you don’t know “the rules.” As for the “expectations” of the company you worked for - are you currently blowing the whistle on their illegal hiring practices?

I know the rules as well as you do. But I was held to them as opposed to enforcing them. I suppose that’s why our perspective is different.

I am currently retired. They can ■■■■ themselves with the law for all I care.

Samm · 2022-11-04T09:59:47.144Z

PurpnGold:

Samm:

Most white males run their companies with an abundance of caution to comply with the law. Particularly ambiguous laws like EEO laws. The law does not establish a pecking order, but there most certainly is one because there is so much subjectivity when dealing with hiring and promotions in a work place. Those white men in charge are rue to get crosswise with the law and overcompensate to avoid trouble that will divert energy from running the company.

And when the company ran by white males gets in trouble… the lawyers and/or arbitrators are likely also white males.

Basically I’m challenging the notion that white male cannot get a fair shot in a discrimination case because they are the majority.

However that doesn’t seem to make sense… as a matter of fact… them being the majority is the exact reason why they SHOULD feel comfortable filing a discrimination case.

You seem to think that just because “they” are white men, that they won’t discriminate against other white men. They follow the law that requires them to discriminate against white men in certain cases. They can do nothing else without risking the rath of the law upon themselves.

Ben_Natuf · 2022-11-04T12:08:35.358Z

lol… you’re barely qualified to execute a real estate transaction

zantax · 2022-11-10T12:25:23.409Z

NJBob:

And black listed me from getting another job in my industry.

Keep in mind you are talking to the same people who inevitably say “yes white people have it so hard in America” and roll their eyes at any evidence of discrimination against whites. Kind of futile to debate them on the subject.