Is the Republican party for or against tariffs?

CanadianJudo · 2019-12-04T04:55:23.364Z

Trump NAFTA 2.0 will become law any day now… oh wait its dead in all three countries.

WildRose · 2019-12-04T05:17:25.542Z

That all depends on what your goal was initially.

Consumes will always bear the cost but if that short term pain leads to fair and free trade in the future they will also get the long term benefit.

Producers tend to be the ones that bear the price in the long run as they either have to learn to compete on that level playing field, produce something else or get into a different business altogether.

PhilipNolan · 2019-12-04T05:19:41.298Z

No it’s not

WildRose · 2019-12-04T05:22:25.338Z

He’ll say anything.

CanadianJudo · 2019-12-04T06:21:11.733Z

Its only been passed in Mexico and is dead in the water in Canada / America.

once Trump is gone the deal will be forgotten so he better get working hard.

WildRose · 2019-12-04T07:27:38.109Z

No it isn’t.

There’s strong support for it on both sides of the aisle, Nancy just needs to get off of her ass and get it through the house.

Smyrna · 2019-12-04T09:59:24.881Z

Zander:

Can you give an example of tariffs bringing a cheater around?

I can’t give you an example of any administration prior to Trump, addressing the fact that China is a cheater…can you?

WuWei · 2019-12-04T13:36:58.355Z

TheDoctorIsIn:

WildRose:

You cannot have free trade without a level playing field.

You can’t have a level playing field without free trade.

Ridiculous.

PhilipNolan · 2019-12-04T14:00:23.933Z

You’ve walked the lie back a little, Now how about the truth (contrary to popular belief it doesn’t hurt).

It needs to be reintroduced in the Canadian Parliament after elections, since all pending legislation is tossed when the current Parliament was dissolved.

Nor is it “dead” in the U.S. Congress, albeit it has taken a back seat due to the focus on impeachment.

Zander · 2019-12-04T20:33:09.340Z

Smyrna:

Zander:

Can you give an example of tariffs bringing a cheater around?

I can’t give you an example of any administration prior to Trump, addressing the fact that China is a cheater…can you?

You can’t give an example, in the history of the world, of a county using tariffs to bring a cheater around?

That’s interesting.

WildRose · 2019-12-05T01:07:51.976Z

We used them against Japan in the seventies to bring them around.

As a result most of the vehicles they sell in the US are also now made in the US.

Samson_Corwell · 2019-12-05T01:46:28.589Z

Safiel:

Guilds:

Safiel:

I support unconditional free trade.

Where has that worked in a positive way anywhere in the history of the world?

I don’t think it has ever been tried in its truest form.

But I do know that we do better in periods of freer trade.

Periods of protectionism have always ended badly at best, catastrophically at worst.

Protectionism greatly helped Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan.

Guilds · 2019-12-05T02:49:19.718Z

Samson_Corwell:

Protectionism greatly helped Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan.

It also helped the USA. Prior to about 1970.

Zander · 2019-12-05T04:03:41.651Z

WildRose:

We used them against Japan in the seventies to bring them around.

As a result most of the vehicles they sell in the US are also now made in the US.

Thanks

Steel-W0LF · 2019-12-05T05:27:44.169Z

“Free Trade” by and large is about as unequal a playing field as there could be.

WuWei · 2019-12-05T14:12:21.137Z

Guilds:

Samson_Corwell:

Protectionism greatly helped Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan.

It also helped the USA. Prior to about 1970.

And is now.

Oryx · 2022-05-26T20:21:29.379Z

MarketWatch

Mitt Romney, Elizabeth Warren, other senators send bipartisan letter to Biden...

A bipartisan group of senators is asking President Joe Biden to "substantially maintain" tariffs on Chinese imports imposed by his predecessor, Donald Trump.

Smyrna · 2022-05-26T21:02:59.234Z

This is ■■■■■■■ easy…if it is manufactured producing more pollution than what it would generate if manufactured here in the US, it shouldn’t be allowed to be sold in the US. A lot of production would return to the US and there’d be no need for tariffs. BAM…ezpz. The problem is…our government created this. Then as China pollutes, our same government that created this problem, wants to preach about man made global warming.

Ben_Natuf · 2022-05-26T22:35:42.351Z

which tarriffs and to what purpose?

johnwk2 · 2022-05-28T01:55:39.085Z

hindsight:

Is the Republican party for or against tariffs?

Patriotic American citizens are for an America First tax policy.

For example, our founding fathers taxed at our water’s edge and had foreigners paying for the privilege of doing business on America soil! What a novel idea … an America first policy!

Madison sums up our founding father’s trade policy as follows during the creation of our Nations’ first revenue raising Act

“…a national revenue must be obtained; but the system must be such a one, that, while it secures the object of revenue it shall not be oppressive to our constituents.”

The Act went on to tax specifically chosen imported articles and not one dime was raised by taxing American domestic manufacturers, the working man’s wage, or the returns on invested capital ___ all of which contributed enormously to America becoming the economic marvel of the world!

It should also be noted the Act was signed by George Washington on July 4th, 1789, as if to give England a second notice of America’s independence while exercising her power to tax foreign imports in order to fill our national treasury.

In addition to imposing a specific amount of tax on specifically chosen articles imported, our founding fathers imposed an across-the-board tax on imports which was higher for imports arriving in foreign owned foreign built vessels, and discounted the tax for imports arriving in American owned American built ships:

“…a discount of ten percent on all duties imposed by this Act shall be allowed on such goods, wares, and merchandise as shall be imported in vessels built in the United States, and wholly the property of a citizen or citizens thereof.” SEE: An Act imposing duties on Tonnage July 20, 1789

This patriotic use of taxing at our water’s edge not only filled our national treasury, but gave American ship builders a hometown advantage and predictably resulted in America’s ship building industry to flourish and America’s merchant marine to become the most powerful on the face of the planet. Unfortunately, last time I visited the docks in New York’s Hell’s Kitchen area, I was very saddened that I could no longer read the names on the docked ships as they all seemed to be foreign owned foreign built vessels…an irrefutable sign of America’s decline traceable to the ravages of our international “free trade crowd” and a traitorous sellout of America’s sovereignty to the highest international bidders by members of Congress and our presidents, past and present!

NOTE: The above can be found in the 1995 Congressional Hearings on REPLACING THE FEDERAL INCOMETAX