Is Roe V Wade going to be overturned?

[rp5x5]

@Samm

That doesn’t change the fact that personhood is defined in law. In fact, personhood is a made up term to identify what the law defines. It’s immaterial to the issue of human life.

And how one interprets the intent of the original meaning has been manipulated by atheists and minimized by lawyers and law makers, of either party.

[SixFoot]

@TheRedComet

Please stop comparing abortion to interracial marriage or hell race at all. It’s beyond offensive. Interracial marriage doesn’t involve anyone dying without due process.

There is a Pacific Ocean sized difference between the two.

There are other examples you could use to prove your point.

No big (D)eal, dude!

[FreeAndClear]

@rp5x5

@Samm

That doesn’t change the fact that personhood is defined in law. In fact, personhood is a made up term to identify what the law defines. It’s immaterial to the issue of human life.

And how one interprets the intent of the original meaning has been manipulated by atheists and minimized by lawyers and law makers.

Don’t forget deists.

[Samm]

@Jezcoe

It is wild that people are more upset that this got leaked than being ecstatic that the brass ring is in sight.

It’s not an either/or situation. One can be both outraged by the horrendous violation of Court confidentiality and be ecstatic about the apparent inevitability of the reversal of Roe v. Wade simultaneously and with equal vigor.

[Samm]

@Jezcoe

@Ben_Natuf

this shows some radical leftist or her radical leftist clerk should never have been allowed anywhere near the supreme court.

Who cares?

The right has won.

Why be mad?

Why are you not mad that confidential Court documents have been leaked to the public? Is that how you want all Court proceedings to go in the future?

[Jezcoe]

@Samm

Why are you not mad that confidential Court documents have been leaked to the public?

Why are you?

Does the right to privacy exist or something?

[Samm]

@Jezcoe

@Smyrna

@Jezcoe

Why do you care that the news that the right has won has been leaked?

That’s a dumb conclusion too. No one has won anything. It’s an initial thought of one Judge.

It is the majority opinion.

Which Justices are in the majority? Are there any signatures on the draft opinion?

[Piper]

@tnt

What does that have to do with wether or not settled law should be overturned?

How can it be settled LAW? A few Activist Justices settled it? 5 men? The Supreme Court doesn’t make our laws, our Representatives and Senators make our laws.

The people didn’t get to choose.

It should have been the States decision. Our State Representatives and Senators make our laws, and they represent the people. That’s the way it should be. We should have had a voice.

[Samm]

@Jezcoe

@margaretms2

We won!

(Don’t tell anyone!)

Now, we can watch people who loathe our political institutions and federal government, and have no problem acknowledging the partisan nature off the Court generally (e.g., John Robert’s is a traitor) clutch their pearls about norms and appearances.

I’m old enough to have watch the dominoes fall into place over the last 35 years or so. Just don’t bring it up, anyone. This is an apolitical thing that the libs are making political.

It is almost like catching the car blows the whole issue up.

If it’s a done deal, why was there a mob of protesters in front of the Supreme Courthouse trying to influence the votes of the Justices?

[JayJay]

If this had never leaked? Maybe.

But it’s hard to keep a base motivated and angry for 6 months over one issue.

[johnwk2]

@tnt

Read the opinion.

It hinges upon the idea that any right not explicitly mentioned in the constitution (ie: abortion. Interracial marriage. gay marriage. Access to contraception) should be handled at the state level.

Seems to me the “idea” you mention is exactly what our constitution commands and is summarized as follows:

“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected.

The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State." Federalist No. 45

Additionally, the Tenth Amendment declares:

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States, respectively, or to the people.”
.

So, do you object to being obedient to what the people and states have agreed to in our written constitution, and our Supreme Court supporting and defending our constitution which each member took an oath to do?

JWK

What makes a Supreme Court opinion legitimate is when it is in harmony with the text of our Constitution and its documented legislative intent which gives context to its text.

[Guvnah]

@Jezcoe

The current court was engineered by the Right with McConnell as their handmaiden to overturn 50 years of precedence.

How long was legal slavery precedence?

Wrong is wrong, even if it has been practiced for millennia.

@Jezcoe

The right won.

They should be happy.

Based on the whining, clearly you guys are not.

[Piper]

@Samm

If it’s a done deal, why was there a mob of protesters in front of the Supreme Courthouse trying to influence the votes of the Justices?

It’s an insurrection. Get the fence!!!

[Guvnah]

@tnt

“If this leaked draft opinion is the final decision and this reporting is accurate, it would be completely inconsistent with what Justice Gorsuch and Justice Kavanaugh said in their hearings and in our meetings in my office,”

She’s just as disappointed as you are.

[Call_me_Ishmael]

@Jezcoe

@Call_me_Ishmael

@tnt

@Piper

When did Conservatives have the majority on the SC that they could consider overturning Roe v Wade?

What does that have to do with wether or not settled law should be overturned?

Like Dred Scott?

That was taken care of with an amendment.

But what makes Taney’s decision so onerous was that rights were based on race….not status.

Because of that decision, black people could never be full citizens.

• the subjects arent considered fully human
• the subjects are considered as property of an owner
• the owner would suffer financially if the subjects are given rights
• the subjects can’t vote

[Rodeo]

@margaretms2

But it is remarkable to consider that the guy from The Apprentice chose a third of the Supreme Court.

He was elected with over 300 electoral college votes…I might add many Americans if I remember right voted the way we did because the Supreme Court was on the line.

Why is that remarkable?

The country was by a majority of the measurable data far better off under the leadership of the “guy from the apprentice” than it is under the “guy who should be in the nursing home with the crack pipe addicted influence peddling son”.

[JayJay]

@Guvnah

@tnt

“If this leaked draft opinion is the final decision and this reporting is accurate, it would be completely inconsistent with what Justice Gorsuch and Justice Kavanaugh said in their hearings and in our meetings in my office,”

She’s just as disappointed as you are.

Even moreso!

She might have to send an angry letter to the justices!

[Jezcoe]

@Samm

If it’s a done deal, why was there a mob of protesters in front of the Supreme Courthouse trying to influence the votes of the Justices?

They are going to go back on a majority opinion?

Doubtful.

[margaretms2]

Well, at least they didn’t bring a gallows and ransack the place.

Besides, people protest things that have already happened as well things that are going to happen. So I’m not sure what the argument is. Obamacare was a “done deal”; lots of people gathered to protest it, anyway.

[Jezcoe]

@Guvnah

How long was legal slavery precedence?

It was written into the Constitution…. So quite a while.

Funny thing about this decision…. If the Radical Republicans failed to have gotten the 14th, 15th and 16th amendments through… slavery would be a State issue.

Fun… right?