Is Rahm Emanuel finally getting it right?

DMK · 2018-08-13T23:45:53.453Z

altair1013:

Wow. It is so rare to find someone in this forum who is willing to look past the politics to the issue itself. You are totally correct. And how can someone be a good parent when they have not been taught any better themselves? It is truly a dismal situation. A child born into that environment is doomed from the start. It’s not his fault. But using mysterious outside forces as an excuse definitely makes things worse. The problems of the hood can only be solved when the people of the hood stop preying on each other. That is where Rahm is starting to catch on.

The issues are complicated by politics. It seems every party has an answer to solve the problems but they can’t agree so nothing gets done.

I am of the mindset: Teach a man to fish so he can feed himself for a lifetime.

Others are of the mindset: Give a man a fish so you can feed him for a day.

DMK · 2018-08-13T23:55:57.587Z

altair1013:

And how can someone be a good parent when they have not been taught any better themselves? It is truly a dismal situation. A child born into that environment is doomed from the start. It’s not his fault.

I am witnessing this exact same problem with an employee right now. Bad parenting, excuses and enabling made their child pretty much into a sociopath. The boy was arrested today and honestly, he is so ruined I see nothing but prison for his future.

altair1013 · 2018-08-14T00:39:47.414Z

DMK:

I am witnessing this exact same problem with an employee right now. Bad parenting, excuses and enabling made their child pretty much into a sociopath. The boy was arrested today and honestly, he is so ruined I see nothing but prison for his future.

Sad………

Cratic3947 · 2018-08-14T00:46:35.463Z

reflechissez:

altair1013:

Drawz:

Just as a point of information, their are 24 cities in this country that are more bloodbathy than Chicago is. I wonder why conservatives started focusing on Chicago during the last administration.

That said, I do think that the lack of stable family structure is probably the #1 cause of a host of the problems that plague this country.

I don’t know what the answer is. If a child was raised in that environment with little supervision, guidance and parental involvement. He is doomed from the start. Very sad. But I’m not sure what can be done. Maybe the Sharpton’s and the Jackson’s should focus a little energy to this issue. But they won’t.

Who’s in charge of fixing the poor white people? There’s more of them. You should be concerned. Those are your people. Salt of the earth. Heartland. Culture. Other stupid ■■■■■

There this concept in math called “percentages”. As in percent of population. They also have “variables” which cause different outcomes.

Drawz · 2018-08-14T00:51:51.268Z

WuWei:

Drawz:

Possibly US casualties? Which would be rather disingenuous since I’m fairly certain there aren’t 2.7 million US citizens in Afghanistan.

There aren’t 2.7 million in that neighborhood in Chicago either.

My post was about Afghanistan versus Chicago, why are you trying to move the goalposts to specific neighborhoods in Chicago?

WuWei · 2018-08-14T00:54:06.022Z

Drawz:

My post was about Afghanistan versus Chicago, why are you trying to move the goalposts to specific neighborhoods in Chicago?

Because that’s where the violence is happening.

DMK · 2018-08-14T01:04:41.592Z

altair1013:

Sad………

No. It isn’t sad. It is where, at this point he belongs.

The parent’s have been given every opportunity to correct themselves. Yet, they chose to enable him instead. The child (and parent’s) were given extensive counseling at taxpayer expense but they all still chose this path. I don’t buy that he is a victim of his parent’s bad choices.

He was shown and provided with the opportunity for a different way. He rejected it for the easy way out and can now and forever place the blame on his parents. Always a victim, always someone else’s fault. While he rots in prison.

WuWei · 2018-08-14T01:06:14.833Z

How old is he?

DMK · 2018-08-14T01:06:40.273Z

WuWei:

How old is he?

17…

WuWei · 2018-08-14T01:08:07.780Z

DMK:

WuWei:

How old is he?

17…

I understand your frustration. You do understand his brain isn’t fully formed until about 25, right?

It’s unfortunate this will follow him for the rest of his life.

DMK · 2018-08-14T01:19:21.210Z

WuWei:

I understand your frustration. You do understand his brain isn’t fully formed until about 25, right?

It’s unfortunate this will follow him for the rest of his life.

I completely understand the 25 age for full formation. And thank you for saying you understand my frustration. Actually, it is my grief on behalf for someone that I’ve known for 25 years.

But, I think the point is… Parenting skills and instilling personal responsibility, morals and values in our children from a young age. That got lost somewhere and we need to get it back.

Drawz · 2018-08-14T03:00:18.575Z

WuWei:

Drawz:

My post was about Afghanistan versus Chicago, why are you trying to move the goalposts to specific neighborhoods in Chicago?

Because that’s where the violence is happening.

Ok, I was talking about the violence in the country of Afghanistan and the city of Chicago, the metric the poster I was responding to set. But you want to talk about US soldiers in Afghanistan and people in a specific neighborhood in Chicago. That’s fine, but there’s no need to reference my post when you do.

Smyrna · 2018-08-14T10:25:25.700Z

altair1013:

In order to succeed. You must prepare yourself for life. Without parental guidance, this is nearly impossible. They are born into an environment where there is little hope for escape. Racism should be the last of their worries. Not the first.

I 110% agree and believe that a financial bonus for the parent if the child performs academically will engage the parent/parents. That was the intent.

WuWei · 2018-08-14T16:24:52.145Z

Drawz:

Ok, I was talking about the violence in the country of Afghanistan and the city of Chicago, the metric the poster I was responding to set. But you want to talk about US soldiers in Afghanistan and people in a specific neighborhood in Chicago. That’s fine, but there’s no need to reference my post when you do.

The violence in Chicago is happening in a specific neighborhood.

Abracadabra · 2018-08-14T18:17:06.997Z

Chicago should be its own state. Sanctioned city. It’s been heavily corrupt for over
100 years. Ironically enough, Bernie Sanders went to college in Chicago.
Chicago is heavily Liberal Democratic also. Is there a correlation there? corruptness, evilness, and immoralness, and Liberal Democrats, for over 100 years? I think so.

Drawz · 2018-08-14T20:56:26.938Z

WuWei:

Drawz:

Ok, I was talking about the violence in the country of Afghanistan and the city of Chicago, the metric the poster I was responding to set. But you want to talk about US soldiers in Afghanistan and people in a specific neighborhood in Chicago. That’s fine, but there’s no need to reference my post when you do.

The violence in Chicago is happening in a specific neighborhood.

That claim has nothing at all to do with the poster’s claim that I disputed.

Drawz · 2018-08-14T21:02:27.030Z

Abracadabra:

Chicago should be its own state. Sanctioned city. It’s been heavily corrupt for over
100 years. Ironically enough, Bernie Sanders went to college in Chicago.
Chicago is heavily Liberal Democratic also. Is there a correlation there? corruptness, evilness, and immoralness, and Liberal Democrats, for over 100 years? I think so.

GIve us the rest of Cook County and it’s a deal…

Abracadabra · 2018-08-15T17:07:11.781Z

Democrats already have most of Cook county in general.

Drawz · 2018-08-15T17:17:15.930Z

Abracadabra:

Democrats already have most of Cook county in general.

They do. I am now expanding my conditions to everything north of I-80.

Abracadabra · 2018-08-15T17:24:20.993Z

Cook country should be it’s own state. If it wasn’t in Illinois, we’d have a big chance that it would stop going to the corrupt Liberals, and start going to the Conservatives.