Is a drive-thru ban coming to your area?

AlexMcAlpine · 2019-08-18T16:52:40.889Z

SimplyTrying:

It takes a lot more concentration in a crowded lot to have to back out.

Ever seen somebody get into a big ol’ van or SUV, dial someone on their phone and with the phone glued to their ear, start backing out of a parking space?

I’ve never understood why they can’t just wait until they get out of the parking lot and onto a road…

markdido · 2019-08-18T16:53:00.814Z

New Jersey Jug Handle.

en.wikipedia.org

Jughandle

A jughandle is a type of ramp or slip road that changes the way traffic turns left at an at-grade intersection (in a country where traffic drives on the right). Instead of a standard left turn being made from the left lane, left-turning traffic uses a ramp on the right side of the road. In a standard forward jughandle or near-side jughandle, the ramp leaves before the intersection, and left-turning traffic turns left off of it rather than the through road; right turns are also made using the jugh...

lessright · 2019-08-18T16:53:05.109Z

I know what you’re talking about. I’ve seen those ‘mechanical’ (for lack of a better word) metering systems. Most now (I think) are moving towards an electronic metering which track not only the size of the shot, but how many shots are poured.

Admittedly I’m not as familiar as I used to be. My social life no longer revolves around public drinking establishments. I could probably get an update from some of my grandkids. They’re all drinking age now.

STODR · 2019-08-18T16:54:24.346Z

I love them. The times I have to stop is easily negated during light traffic times I do not.

Snow96 · 2019-08-18T16:54:52.711Z

This is different than diverging diamond. Main flow actually switches sides of the road. Normally you drive on the Right side of the road. As you come to the freeway, main flow moves over into the left lanes, and after the intersection moves back over into the left lanes.

I’m trying to find it on the internet. But so far I can only find the continuous flow intersections (another weird Utah one I think).

Nevermind. it is Diverging diamond.

https://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/safety/safety-eng/inter-design/ddi.aspx

Snow96 · 2019-08-18T16:59:59.106Z

In Utah it’s not an electronic one (in most bars). It’s a special cap that goes on the bottle. You turn the bottle upsaide down pull one lever, and the cap fills with 1 oz of alcohol. Release that one, pull the second lever and it dumps into the cup.

If DABC is in house and the see a bartender not using one – it’s a significant fine. They see a bartender put two meters in a drink, significant fine again. With the fines, if it’s a repeat, they can be shut down for 2 weeks.

And mini bottles are 1.5 oz.

Guvnah · 2019-08-18T17:01:29.854Z

lessright:

A digression… I visited New Orleans years ago and was confused (at first) with their habit of forbidding left turns and replacing that with right turn / U-turn configuration at intersections to replace the left turn lanes.

In NJ these are called jug handles. And they’ve been there since before probably anyone on this board was born.

Some people love them. Some hate them.

conan · 2019-08-18T17:02:41.879Z

I don’t think I’ve been through a drive through in 30 years or more.

FloridaYankee · 2019-08-18T17:05:24.748Z

AlexMcAlpine:

FloridaYankee:

They do however cut down on injuries and fatalities.

I think they’re silly. We’re getting quite a few in Cheyenne. Takes up twice as much space as a simple four-way light, and you still have to stop and wait if there’s lots of traffic, so what’s the point except that our roads all of a sudden have to match some ISO standard from Europe?

The fact that you are pretty much forced to slow down as opposed to barreling through a red light means that accident occur at slower speeds, so they cut down significantly on injuries and fatalities. The whole point is to slow you down, regardless of the fact that it inconveniences many.

Guvnah · 2019-08-18T17:05:55.304Z

Oryx:

If there’s a stoplight I inevitably have to stop for it. With a roundabout I almost never have to stop, just slow down.

This ^^

FloridaYankee · 2019-08-18T17:06:11.035Z

STODR:

I have seen it on the news. I figured when I ran into it the first time I will be in the wrong lane for where I am going. Lol.

There was quite a lot of confusion when they opened this one lol.

Guvnah · 2019-08-18T17:06:21.185Z

SimplyTrying:

We have a lot of roundabouts in Maryland. A lot of people don’t understand them and they just stop.

This too ^^

lessright · 2019-08-18T17:08:51.986Z

That’s just the configuration used in my town to access I-15.

FloridaYankee · 2019-08-18T17:08:52.261Z

lessright:

I know what you’re talking about. I’ve seen those ‘mechanical’ (for lack of a better word) metering systems. Most now (I think) are moving towards an electronic metering which track not only the size of the shot, but how many shots are poured.

Admittedly I’m not as familiar as I used to be. My social life no longer revolves around public drinking establishments. I could probably get an update from some of my grandkids. They’re all drinking age now.

I don’t spend much time in bars anymore either, and particularly ones that have those kinds of things. I’m more of a saloon type lol.

Guvnah · 2019-08-18T17:08:57.413Z

SimplyTrying:

Never heard that before and I’ve been to nj a few times - not for 15 years though.

lessright:

I’ve never heard that phrase, jug handle.

en.wikipedia.org

Jughandle

A jughandle is a type of ramp or slip road that changes the way traffic turns left at an at-grade intersection (in a country where traffic drives on the right). Instead of a standard left turn being made from the left lane, left-turning traffic uses a ramp on the right side of the road. In a standard forward jughandle or near-side jughandle, the ramp leaves before the intersection, and left-turning traffic turns left off of it rather than the through road; right turns are also made using the jugh...

Springsteen isn’t the only thing to come out of NJ.

FloridaYankee · 2019-08-18T17:10:14.090Z

Snow96:

In Utah it’s not an electronic one (in most bars). It’s a special cap that goes on the bottle. You turn the bottle upsaide down pull one lever, and the cap fills with 1 oz of alcohol. Release that one, pull the second lever and it dumps into the cup.

If DABC is in house and the see a bartender not using one – it’s a significant fine. They see a bartender put two meters in a drink, significant fine again. With the fines, if it’s a repeat, they can be shut down for 2 weeks.

And mini bottles are 1.5 oz.

That confirms it then. I’ve never seen one.

Snow96 · 2019-08-18T17:12:12.360Z

This is an example. One the bar in my town uses has two levers instead of the one.

FloridaYankee · 2019-08-18T17:15:27.367Z

Holy smokes. Excuse my French, but that is ■■■■■■■ extreme.

gooddad409 · 2019-08-18T19:02:03.664Z

Snow96:

Oryx:

My region of Wisconsin is adding a lot of roundabouts where we used to have stop lights. The more of these the better, I think.

There is NEVER a good roundabout!

Amen. I hated those european roundabouts.

zonulet · 2019-08-18T19:56:30.703Z

Oryx:

I don’t go to drive-throughs because I’m trying to avoid cancer.

“Air pollution levels are high at intersections with traffic lights because drivers decelerate, idle, and accelerate there. The same result will occur anywhere cars idle, such as drive-through windows at restaurants.3 Pollution inside cars stuck in heavy traffic is as much as 40 percent higher than when traffic is moving.”

IQAir | First in Air Quality

Don’t go camping. Stay away from campgrounds as well with all those toxic campfires.