Iowa Passes Make Sense Legislation

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@Paul_Thomson

@fallenturtle

Sure seems like it. Y’all already rejected what doctors would suggest, so what should be done?

I’m sure we encouraged psychological help.

Many doctors consent that counseling to cope with their physical reality would be most helpful.

How do you find a psychiatrist who rejects the DSM and Gender-Affirming Therapy?

You don’t need to. You are not bound to carry out their recommended treatment regardless of what it is.

Why would you continue to send your child to a doctor that recommends treatments you are morally opposed to?

[JayJay]

@Paul_Thomson

@JayJay

Answer the question, and then we can have a discussion about why governments were created.

The answer depends on why we have governments. Whether your assertion is true depends on why you think governments exist.

There are some situations in which governments can proscribe health measures.

Saying you may not practise certain therapies is not equal to saying that you must practise certain therapies.

In certain situations.

Did those situations apply in Idaho and how was this determined?

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

Why would you continue to send your child to a doctor that recommends treatments you are morally opposed to?

You wouldn’t. You’d find another doctor who was interested in treating the mental disorder rather than surrendering to it.

[Guvnah]

@Samm

Why would you continue to send your child to a doctor that recommends treatments you are morally opposed to?

You wouldn’t.

It’s mostly lib parents pushing these premature transitions, and they’ve likely sought out doctors who would accommodate their agenda.

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

@fallenturtle

Why would you continue to send your child to a doctor that recommends treatments you are morally opposed to?

You wouldn’t. You’d find another doctor who was interested in treating the mental disorder rather than surrendering to it.

Which brings us back to, “How do you find a psychiatrist who rejects the DSM and Gender-Affirming Therapy?”

[fallenturtle]

@Guvnah

@Samm

Why would you continue to send your child to a doctor that recommends treatments you are morally opposed to?

You wouldn’t.

It’s mostly lib parents pushing these premature transitions, and they’ve likely sought out doctors who would accommodate their agenda.

Is there any evidence to support this hunch?

[gooddad409]

@Guvnah

@Samm

Why would you continue to send your child to a doctor that recommends treatments you are morally opposed to?

You wouldn’t.

It’s mostly lib parents pushing these premature transitions, and they’ve likely sought out doctors who would accommodate their agenda.

It’s a sick agenda.

[fallenturtle]

@gooddad409

@Guvnah

@Samm

Why would you continue to send your child to a doctor that recommends treatments you are morally opposed to?

You wouldn’t.

It’s mostly lib parents pushing these premature transitions, and they’ve likely sought out doctors who would accommodate their agenda.

It’s a sick agenda.

But is it real?

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

@fallenturtle

How do you find a psychiatrist who rejects the DSM and Gender-Affirming Therapy?

Which brings us back to, “How do you find a psychiatrist who rejects the DSM and Gender-Affirming Therapy?”

My response to that is unchanged.

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

@Guvnah

@Samm

Why would you continue to send your child to a doctor that recommends treatments you are morally opposed to?

You wouldn’t.

It’s mostly lib parents pushing these premature transitions, and they’ve likely sought out doctors who would accommodate their agenda.

Is there any evidence to support this hunch?

Yes. The fact the gender affirmation is a real thing in the minds of many people, including apparently, you.

[WuWei]

Puberty blockers save lives?

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

@gooddad409

@Guvnah

@Samm

Why would you continue to send your child to a doctor that recommends treatments you are morally opposed to?

You wouldn’t.

It’s mostly lib parents pushing these premature transitions, and they’ve likely sought out doctors who would accommodate their agenda.

It’s a sick agenda.

But is it real?

The agenda? Yes. The dsyphoria? Perhaps. The affirmation process? It’s happening.

What do you think we have been talking about here?

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@fallenturtle

How do you find a psychiatrist who rejects the DSM and Gender-Affirming Therapy?

Which brings us back to, “How do you find a psychiatrist who rejects the DSM and Gender-Affirming Therapy?”

My response to that is unchanged.

Which was: “You’d find another doctor who was interested in treating the mental disorder rather than surrendering to it.”

How do you find doctors like that?

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@fallenturtle

How do you find a psychiatrist who rejects the DSM and Gender-Affirming Therapy?

Which brings us back to, “How do you find a psychiatrist who rejects the DSM and Gender-Affirming Therapy?”

My response to that is unchanged.

Which was: “You’d find another doctor who was interested in treating the mental disorder rather than surrendering to it.”

How do you find doctors like that?

You’ll know when the doctor you’re seeing quits trying to talk you into giving your kid puberty blocking drugs instead of treating their dysphoria.

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@Guvnah

@Samm

Why would you continue to send your child to a doctor that recommends treatments you are morally opposed to?

You wouldn’t.

It’s mostly lib parents pushing these premature transitions, and they’ve likely sought out doctors who would accommodate their agenda.

Is there any evidence to support this hunch?

Yes. The fact the gender affirmation is a real thing in the minds of many people, including apparently, you.

@Samm

The agenda? Yes. The dsyphoria? Perhaps. The affirmation process? It’s happening.

What do you think we have been talking about here?

I might have read too much into “premature transitions”. I thought they were referring to doctors and parents looking to put kids on puberty blockers prior to 6 months and other counseling as per the DSM.

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@fallenturtle

How do you find a psychiatrist who rejects the DSM and Gender-Affirming Therapy?

Which brings us back to, “How do you find a psychiatrist who rejects the DSM and Gender-Affirming Therapy?”

My response to that is unchanged.

Which was: “You’d find another doctor who was interested in treating the mental disorder rather than surrendering to it.”

How do you find doctors like that?

You’ll know when the doctor you’re seeing quits trying to talk you into giving your kid puberty blocking drugs instead of treating their dysphoria.

Since most doctors follow the DSM, that sounds very time consuming, expensive, and wearing on the child. At the very least make phone calls first asking if they reject the APA and the DSM… though I suspect that will still take a lot of time and phone calls.

[PurpnGold]

@Samm

@fallenturtle

Why would you continue to send your child to a doctor that recommends treatments you are morally opposed to?

You wouldn’t. You’d find another doctor who was interested in treating the mental disorder rather than surrendering to it.

You do know that puberty blockers are a recommended treatment, right?

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

I might have read too much into “premature transitions”. I thought they were referring to doctors and parents looking to put kids on puberty blockers prior to 6 months and other counseling as per the DSM.

Where on earth did you get that idea?

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@fallenturtle

How do you find a psychiatrist who rejects the DSM and Gender-Affirming Therapy?

Which brings us back to, “How do you find a psychiatrist who rejects the DSM and Gender-Affirming Therapy?”

My response to that is unchanged.

Which was: “You’d find another doctor who was interested in treating the mental disorder rather than surrendering to it.”

How do you find doctors like that?

You’ll know when the doctor you’re seeing quits trying to talk you into giving your kid puberty blocking drugs instead of treating their dysphoria.

Since most doctors follow the DSM, that sounds very time consuming, expensive, and wearing on the child. At the very least make phone calls first asking if they reject the APA and the DSM… though I suspect that will still take a lot of time and phone calls.

You’re over thinking this.

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

@fallenturtle

I might have read too much into “premature transitions”. I thought they were referring to doctors and parents looking to put kids on puberty blockers prior to 6 months and other counseling as per the DSM.

Where on earth did you get that idea?

A diagnosis of GD requires one or more certain conditions that have been ongoing for at least 6 months.