Incitement to Insurrection

sikofit · 2021-01-09T15:36:43.566Z

WorldWatcher:

sikofit:

peek-a-boo:

Big mistake IMHO. Zero chance Trump will be removed before Jan 20th. This attempt will only for political theater. We don’t need more of that at this time.

Removal from office isnt the only thing impeachment accomplishes. It also prohibits him from ever holding public office again and removes his executive privileges

Not necessarily.

There are two possibilities if the Senate votes to confirm the impeachment: (1) removal from office, and (2) a separate decision to bar future service in a position of trust for the United States.

The Senate can do #1 only, or #1 and #2. But just because the do #1 does not mean #2 is automatic.
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If it gets to the Senate on January 21st then I believe it will be as #2 becomes the only real option.

Tguns · 2021-01-09T15:38:03.114Z

I don’t think an impeachment now is going to placate the thirst for vengeance radical zealots wish to quench and it certainly won’t assuage any grievance Trump loyalists may perceive.

WorldWatcher · 2021-01-09T15:39:44.474Z

sikofit:

WorldWatcher:

sikofit:

peek-a-boo:

Big mistake IMHO. Zero chance Trump will be removed before Jan 20th. This attempt will only for political theater. We don’t need more of that at this time.

Removal from office isnt the only thing impeachment accomplishes. It also prohibits him from ever holding public office again and removes his executive privileges

Not necessarily.

There are two possibilities if the Senate votes to confirm the impeachment: (1) removal from office, and (2) a separate decision to bar future service in a position of trust for the United States.

The Senate can do #1 only, or #1 and #2. But just because the do #1 does not mean #2 is automatic.
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If it gets to the Senate on January 21st then I believe it will be as #2 becomes the only real option.

That is true.

Once he leaves office, either through resignation, 25th Amendment, or Impeachment - then #1 does not apply. However he can still be impeached after leaving office so that barring from a future position of trust in the United States government can be made.
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Snow96 · 2021-01-09T15:40:10.206Z

sikofit:

If it gets to the Senate on January 21st then I believe it will be as #2 becomes the only real option.

On January 21st, Trump is no longer president and can no longer be removed from office – it would be a moot point then.

Konssurvative1 · 2021-01-09T15:48:43.613Z

I stand corrected.

gooddad409 · 2021-01-09T15:48:46.496Z

WildRose:

I’m pretty sure he’ll survive but there ad revenue is about to take a deep dive.

And stock prices. Already down 4 percent in futures i hear.

DougBH · 2021-01-09T15:50:07.507Z

If the Senate can impeach an officer who is not an officer because his term has ended, then can they impeach someone who has never held an office?
No, that argument makes no sense at all. Impeachment is solely for people holding office. Dems will have to get their revenge some other way.
Love the way they are living up to Biden’s promise to be a great unifier.
Another lying President in office.

Tguns · 2021-01-09T15:52:47.999Z

First, to your ending comment…

A few years ago, we were never going to get to a point where Trump was president. The way this show is playing out, who knows what we’ll be capable of doing in the next few years.

Second, is there a time limit on impeachment? Not for a result of removal from office obviously, but to bar him from public office. Could an impeachment be held in a year or so, say after a conviction for some crime?

WorldWatcher · 2021-01-09T15:53:13.354Z

gooddad409:

WildRose:

I’m pretty sure he’ll survive but there ad revenue is about to take a deep dive.

And stock prices. Already down 4 percent in futures i hear.

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Dow, NASDAQ, and S&P futures are actually up.
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WorldWatcher · 2021-01-09T15:54:10.238Z

DougBH:

If the Senate can impeach an officer who is not an officer because his term has ended, then can they impeach someone who has never held an office?
No, that argument makes no sense at all. Impeachment is solely for people holding office. Dems will have to get their revenge some other way.
Love the way they are living up to Biden’s promise to be a great unifier.
Another lying President in office.

Psst - you know there is already precedent for impeaching someone after they have left office right?
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biggestal99 · 2021-01-09T15:56:13.222Z

Meriweather:

I think it is amazing how many are willing to follow Nancy Pelosi who seems to be running this country.

It not just nancy. Mitch wants trump to go also.

Allan

WorldWatcher · 2021-01-09T15:57:14.109Z

Tguns:

First, to your ending comment…

A few years ago, we were never going to get to a point where Trump was president. The way this show is playing out, who knows what we’ll be capable of doing in the next few years.

Second, is there a time limit on impeachment? Not for a result of removal from office obviously, but to bar him from public office. Could an impeachment be held in a year or so, say after a conviction for some crime?

As far as I know, which I don’t claim to be an authority, there is no time limit on when impeachment can occur.

Technically Congress could impeach Woodrow Wilson and bar him from holding public office again.

It is likely? No.

If Congress doesn’t impeach President Trump soon, it won’t happen as there will not be the votes to convict. (Not that conviction is likely to occur now anyway.)
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PAmoderate37 · 2021-01-09T15:58:28.318Z

biggestal99:

It not just nancy. Mitch wants trump to go also.

The Senate won’t even hear the case until Trump is gone!

PurpnGold · 2021-01-09T16:03:24.364Z

DougBH:

Love the way they are living up to Biden’s promise to be a great unifier.
Another lying President in office.

At this point impeaching Trump is a unifying gesture.

Republicans will also support it. Trump can’t ever be in government power again.

sikofit · 2021-01-09T16:03:40.483Z

Snow96:

sikofit:

If it gets to the Senate on January 21st then I believe it will be as #2 becomes the only real option.

On January 21st, Trump is no longer president and can no longer be removed from office – it would be a moot point then.

No it won’t. It could prohibit him from trying again in 2024 and also removes his immunity

sikofit · 2021-01-09T16:05:17.551Z

DougBH:

No, that argument makes no sense at all.

While it may not make sense to you it is reality

wiley8425 · 2021-01-09T16:05:31.319Z

They should also move to impeach the thirteen senators who went along with his bs.

Oh and speaking of “virtue signaling”… How about this clown?

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sikofit · 2021-01-09T16:07:42.102Z

wiley8425:

They should also move to impeach the thirteen senators who went along with his bs.

It only ended up being 8. I believe Hawley definitely should be removed.

wiley8425 · 2021-01-09T16:09:04.427Z

Backtracking from supporting sedition and treason doesn’t erase supporting sedition and treason.

sikofit · 2021-01-09T16:11:51.719Z

I still would only choose to hold accountable those that didn’t back down after the debacle unfolded