In re: Michael Flynn (Writ of Mandamus granted, District Court must immediately dismiss the case with prejudice)

[Ben_Natuf]

@kingarthur65

They argued that there was a predicate to interview Flynn and the Judge issued an opinion on that. They then filed a motion to dismiss arguing against their own position with no reason as to why. They should, at the very least, have to explain this position.

They don’t have to explain anything. Prosecutorial discretion is an executive thing which courts have no control over. Once the government moves to dismiss, the judges job is ministerial. The ONLY function other than ministerial is to ensure the move is not in an attempt to harrass the defendant. You’d like them to further explain because you think you’ll find some dirt there.

@kingarthur65

Before the case was closed, Flynn lied to Pence and Spicer about his conversations with Kislyak. Flynn was caught in a lie to VP and Spicer, who then repeated the lie. The idea that there was already an open investigation simply meant that they didn’t need to open a new investigation.

Then fire him, lying to the VP is not illegal. Whatayaknow… they did. Open a new investigation for what? To investigate a phone call the FBI determined was completely within the law? The initial investigation was in the process of being closed because there was no evidence Flynn did anything unlawful, so the thing to do is keep it open to investigate a thing you already know is not unlawful? okay.

@kingarthur65

The DOJ has never made this statement. They have said that it would not serve public interest to prosecute, in the motion to dismiss. Which also contradicts their previously filed motions and briefs. But I don’t know of any statement that DOJ has made clearing Flynn of crimes. When did they say Flynn did not break the law?

Have you been living under a rock? What in the hell do you think their argument to dismiss was? “Even IF Flynn did lie, the lie was not material”. That’s not from me, its from the DoJ. If any lie he may have told is not material, then it is not illegal and no law was broken. That’s why they say they can’t convict him, because he committed no crime to convict him of.

[kingarthur65]

@Ben_Natuf

@kingarthur65

The DOJ has never made this statement. They have said that it would not serve public interest to prosecute, in the motion to dismiss. Which also contradicts their previously filed motions and briefs. But I don’t know of any statement that DOJ has made clearing Flynn of crimes. When did they say Flynn did not break the law?

Have you been living under a rock? What in the hell do you think their argument to dismiss was? “Even IF Flynn did lie, the lie was not material”. That’s not from me, its from the DoJ. If any lie he may have told is not material, then it is not illegal and no law was broken. That’s why they say they can’t convict him, because he committed no crime to convict him of.

As I’ve stated numerous times now. They also argued that his lies were material, and Judge Sullivan ruled on this. It is against the law to lie to the FBI. They have not claimed that “no law was broken” in any court filing. I was asking if you know of any other statement where they said no law was broken. That claim is false.
Nowhere have they made that claim.

[Ben_Natuf]

The claim is NOT false. You refusing to acknowledge what they say now in favor of what they said before does not make one damn thing false. Lying to the FBI is NOT illegal unless the lie is material. The DoJ has admitted that nothing Flynn told investigators is material, therefor it cannot be a crime. I don’t give a damn what Sullivan ruled, the appellate court just told him to stop grandstanding and get on with dismissing. The order was quite scathing in its rebuke.

[kingarthur65]

Did you read the order. Your posts lead me to believe that you are relying on headlines.
It seems apparent that one of us has been relying on the court documents of the case while the other has relied on opinions that media has provided.

[Ben_Natuf]

most certainly did. it was scathing. Sullivan should be embarrassed