In July, New Mexico will require background checks on all gun sales

[kermode]

Washington

[WildRose]

That pretty well says it all. One very leftwing city controls the entire state.

[SpacemanSpiff]

@Samm

@SpacemanSpiff

@Samm

@SpacemanSpiff

Still gonna have to shell out for a lawyer. Guess you’ll have to decide whether you’d rather pay a couple bucks for the FFL transfer or a couple thousand bucks in legal fees.

So you want the gun owner to be punished no matter what. Lovely.

How am I saying that? All I’m saying is do the sale in the manner according to the law and spend a few bucks on the transfer fee, or don’t and run the risk of big legal fees and a possible conviction.

How? You are saying pay the FFL fee or pay a lawyer. Either way the person pays for no benefit to themselves. That’s a punishment.

Paying someone for services rendered is punishment? Is it punishment when Virginia charges you $2.00 to run your paperwork through the system when purchasing a firearm?

[Samm]

@WildRose

That pretty well says it all. One very leftwing city controls the entire state.

That’s not fair. Tacoma and Olympia are ultra liberal too.

[Samm]

@SpacemanSpiff

@Samm

@SpacemanSpiff

@Samm

@SpacemanSpiff

Still gonna have to shell out for a lawyer. Guess you’ll have to decide whether you’d rather pay a couple bucks for the FFL transfer or a couple thousand bucks in legal fees.

So you want the gun owner to be punished no matter what. Lovely.

How am I saying that? All I’m saying is do the sale in the manner according to the law and spend a few bucks on the transfer fee, or don’t and run the risk of big legal fees and a possible conviction.

How? You are saying pay the FFL fee or pay a lawyer. Either way the person pays for no benefit to themselves. That’s a punishment.

Paying someone for services rendered is punishment? Is it punishment when Virginia charges you $2.00 to run your paperwork through the system when purchasing a firearm?

They are paying for a service that gives them no benefit. That is a punishment.

[WildRose]

It is when the gov’t mandates it.

[WuWei]

Some interesting developments in New Mexico. Apparently they are going to put this bad law to a referendum.

[BlueTex]

@WuWei

Some interesting developments in New Mexico. Apparently they are going to put this bad law to a referendum.

Good luck…

Since New Mexico achieved statehood in 1912, only three referendums have gone to voters, according to Legislative Council Services data. The first, in 1930, involved a repeal of a tobacco excise tax. It was the only one voters approved.

The other two, in 1950 and 1964, had to do with repealing an amendment to the primary election code. Both failed.

House Republicans aim to override gun bill by taking it to voters

[WuWei]

Ooh! Thanks. You might want to look at the topics and results of those three again.

What I saw they need about 175k signatures. We’ll see.

[mobulis]

@WuWei

@Phaedrus

What is unconstitutional about requiring registration of firearms?

EVERYTHING!

NOTHING!

[mobulis]

@Samm

@kermode

I initially jumped in to state that private sales conducted at FFL’s in my state the buyer pays the transfer fee (regardless whether the buyer privately agreed to lower his price to cover that fee).
So the only ‘infringement’ on the seller is the hassle of taking the firearm to an FFL and providing some basic info to the dealer.

It is also an infringement for the government to impose conditions on the transfer of legally owned, Constitutionally protected, personal property.

No its not.

[BlueTex]

@WuWei

Ooh! Thanks. You might want to look at the topics and results of those three again.

What I saw they need about 175k signatures. We’ll see.

You might want to check the details…

A veto referendum petition can be filed against any law except laws concerning the following issues:

“ * general appropriation laws;
* laws providing for the preservation of the public peace, health or safety;
* for the payment of the public debt or interest thereon, or the creation or funding of the same, except as in this constitution otherwise provided;
* for the maintenance of the public schools or state institutions, and local or (quote)special laws.

Laws governing the referendum process in New Mexico

[mobulis]

@Samm

@WildRose

The only way an FFL can be involved in the transfer at all is to sign it into and out of inventory creating a new paper trail on the transfer unless there has been a fairly recent change in the law/regulations.

Correct.

As we have discussed before, the whole issue of “universal background checks” could be simply and easily resolved by allowing individuals to voluntarily access the NICS to check out a prospective buyer of one of their personal guns. But what the liberals really want is control, and they cannot control do-it-yourselfers.

As seen on this thread you guys wouldn’t do it no matter what.

[WuWei]

They’re going to do it. I hope they get the signatures, I want to see the reaction. I wonder if they can do a recall referendum like Colorado?

[BlueTex]

@WuWei

They’re going to do it. I hope they get the signatures, I want to see the reaction. I wonder if they can do a recall referendum like Colorado?

Did you read the distribution requirements?

[WuWei]

Yes. The government will use the requirement no doubt. We’ll see what happens.

Another example of Ruling vs. Country class.

[BlueTex]

@WuWei

Yes. The government will use the requirement no doubt. We’ll see what happens.

Another example of Ruling vs. Country class.

And of course the exceptions listed in the post above… What are the odds the law will fall within the " laws providing for the preservation of the public peace, health or safety" exception?

[WuWei]

100%. That’s what I’m saying. They aren’t going to be satisfied with that. I hope they challenge it in court.

What really want to see is a bunch of jury nullifications. I love them.

[WildRose]

Well that isn’t remotely true. It’s us that have been suggesting it.

[mobulis]

@WildRose

Well that isn’t remotely true. It’s us that have been suggesting it.

Nope you guys would not voluntarily access the NICS to check out a prospective buyer of one of your personal guns.