I'm seeking to understand the Constitutionality for both views of the abortion debate

FreeAndClear · 2022-07-14T23:56:37.926Z

Samm:

FreeAndClear:

Yes the New York post.

When? Before or after the conservative source revealed it?

You think a New York tabloid owned by the murdochs is a liberal rag? The paper that “broke” the Hunter Biden story

Orygun · 2022-07-15T00:05:05.770Z

Now here is an interesting idea- floating abortion clinics in federal waters in the Gulf of Mexico to serve women from the South.

Slate Magazine – 14 Jul 22

If You Can’t Get an Abortion on Land, Can You Get One on a Boat?

A doctor explains her long-brewing plan to set up a floating clinic in the Gulf of Mexico.

Safiel · 2022-07-15T00:07:37.389Z

Orygun:

Now here is an interesting idea- floating abortion clinics in federal waters in the Gulf of Mexico to serve women from the South.

How abortions on a floating boat clinic in the Gulf of Mexico will work.

Interestingly, this has been a thing for years along the coast of central and south America.

Register a small ship in a country with legal abortion. Stay just outside the 12 mile limit of the United States and ONLY the laws of the flag country apply.

Orygun · 2022-07-15T00:08:44.134Z

Voila! Problem solved…well until the GOP try and outlaw this legislatively.

Safiel · 2022-07-15T00:11:02.844Z

Orygun:

Voila! Problem solved…well until the GOP try and outlaw this legislatively.

United States laws don’t apply in international waters. They can legislate out the ass. All that legislation dies at the 12 mile limit.

Orygun · 2022-07-15T00:12:21.666Z

Safiel:

United States laws don’t apply in international waters. They can legislate out the ass. All that legislation dies at the 12 mile limit.

Ooooh- got it. Well sheesh there it is.

margaretms2 · 2022-07-15T00:19:47.282Z

Orygun:

Voila! Problem solved…well until the GOP try and outlaw this legislatively.

Well, it’s a good thing that the GOP sees abortion as an issue for states to decide.

Also, here’s Mike Kelly (R-PA) on the floor about half an hour ago, reintroducing a federal heartbeat bill (wink wink).

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A GOP Congress in 2023 passes it.
A GOP president in 2025 signs it.

Orygun · 2022-07-15T00:21:01.294Z

margaretms2:

A GOP Congress in 2023 passes it.
A GOP president in 2025 signs it.

Ugh…states rights! Wait…

margaretms2 · 2022-07-15T00:23:51.834Z

Safiel:

Orygun:

Voila! Problem solved…well until the GOP try and outlaw this legislatively.

United States laws don’t apply in international waters. They can legislate out the ass. All that legislation dies at the 12 mile limit.

As a young conservatrix, I learned about this from William F. Buckley, Jr., who sailed his sailboat outside US territorial limits to smoke weed where it wouldn’t be illegal. No joke.

WorldWatcher · 2022-07-15T00:27:32.754Z

margaretms2:

Safiel:

Orygun:

Voila! Problem solved…well until the GOP try and outlaw this legislatively.

United States laws don’t apply in international waters. They can legislate out the ass. All that legislation dies at the 12 mile limit.

As a young conservatrix, I learned about this from William F. Buckley, Jr., who sailed his sailboat outside US territorial limits to smoke weed where it wouldn’t be illegal. No joke.

Possession would still have been illegal. Once he got to 13 miles where did he get the weed?

WW

Eagle-Keeper · 2022-07-15T00:27:33.584Z

Smyrna:

voted for Trump who actually attempted to get a southern wall built, in spite of all of the forces working against him. He had it down to record low levels and then you…voted for those that raised their hands and told the world that anyone who crossed the border would get free health care. Now Brandon is giving them phones and flying them around the country, spreading COVID and crimes like what you’re complicit in promoting.

Don’t forget free education, free housing, free meals, etc., all at the cost and detriment of the US taxpayer! ■■■■■■■■■ believable! But that’s where the Democrat Party is today.

johnwk2 · 2022-07-15T00:57:30.632Z

Orygun:

Safiel:

United States laws don’t apply in international waters. They can legislate out the ass. All that legislation dies at the 12 mile limit.

Ooooh- got it. Well sheesh there it is.

And who is there to protect them?

johnwk2 · 2022-07-15T01:04:55.415Z

Eagle-Keeper:

Smyrna:

voted for Trump who actually attempted to get a southern wall built, in spite of all of the forces working against him. He had it down to record low levels and then you…voted for those that raised their hands and told the world that anyone who crossed the border would get free health care. Now Brandon is giving them phones and flying them around the country, spreading COVID and crimes like what you’re complicit in promoting.

Don’t forget free education, free housing, free meals, etc., all at the cost and detriment of the US taxpayer! ■■■■■■■■■ believable! But that’s where the Democrat Party is today.

You missed the big freebie! American Citizens get to pay for the births of anchor babies to these invaders which opens the door to more taxpayer financed freebies for invaders.

American citizens are being turned into tax slaves to pay for the economic and social needs of foreign nationals who have invaded our borders. And our politicians are allowing this to happen.

JWK

What will it take for American citizens and their families to realize their homeland is under attack?

Supreme_War_Pig · 2022-07-15T01:06:01.313Z

Protect who from what?

Dem · 2022-07-15T01:07:44.593Z

Safiel:

Orygun:

Voila! Problem solved…well until the GOP try and outlaw this legislatively.

United States laws don’t apply in international waters. They can legislate out the ass. All that legislation dies at the 12 mile limit.

What about murder? Would they not still be able to charge for murder, even if the country the ship is registered to refuses?

biggestal99 · 2022-07-15T10:05:02.111Z

johnwk2:

Tenth Amendment

JWK

1st.

Allan

biggestal99 · 2022-07-15T10:10:32.329Z

Safiel:

Interestingly, this has been a thing for years along the coast of central and south America.

Register a small ship in a country with legal abortion. Stay just outside the 12 mile limit of the United States and ONLY the laws of the flag country apply.

what if the ship was registered in the united states, which now has a mish mash of abortion law. how would that work?

Allan

Smyrna · 2022-07-15T11:22:42.715Z

Dem:

What about murder? Would they not still be able to charge for murder, even if the country the ship is registered to refuses?

…not if you just say the individual wasn’t murdered, they were aborted. Then…all good.

johnwk2 · 2022-07-15T12:06:09.875Z

When not infringing on others’ rights.

JWK

Our federal government, by the terms of our Constitution, is commanded to “guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government and shall protect each of them against Invasion” ___ Article 4, Section 4. Constitution of the United States

biggestal99 · 2022-07-15T13:19:07.895Z

the right to assemble peaceably and protest is inviolate.

its just the part of the constitution that you dont like.

Allan