If not this, then how about an annual charge per mile driven . . .

conan · 2019-05-13T23:08:37.804Z

Out here they raised the gas tax…and roads got worst. So they raised em again and roads still got worst. Now they have toll lane and traffic got worst unless you’re willing to pay about 1.50 per miles using em.

And you wonder why I hate the goverment? I’m sure the road contractors with their politicians in there pocket for no bid contracts are sure enjoying it thou.

GWH · 2019-05-13T23:10:47.404Z

I know people that would cheat that in a heartbeat. I have an old cj-7 that I’ve thought about making electric for ■■■■■ and giggles. Not much way to monitor a battery charger. Not to mention the solar charging options.

calirepub · 2019-05-13T23:13:54.505Z

It’s too bad the government can’t just track all the vehicles in the United States and send a bill for the miles driven to the driver at the end of the year.

GWH · 2019-05-13T23:15:20.886Z

They did the same here. I warned a republican state congressman friend of mine about the implications of his yes vote to raise the tax. He told me it was better to resurface a road as opposed to grading and resurfacing, and it was critical to get the funds in play before they had to do the latter everywhere. I told him that they should get the corruption out first and then, if needed I would support the tax. Otherwise, it’s just something your opponent is going to hammer you with come re-election time. The drums are beating now…

FloridaYankee · 2019-05-13T23:21:45.098Z

Yes I suppose that’s true. What I was envisioning was the charger being hardwired into the panel box, but I’ve been in my panel box many times as a homeowner adding a circuit or changing a breaker or what have you.

Nothing wrong with charging some sort of road use tax to electric vehicles somehow in lieu of gas taxes, but there seems to be problems with every idea floated for it. I think the only (reasonably) fair way is by the mile, with some standard valuation of per mile cost that is vehicle specific for the electric motor size. That too is fraught with problems, but at least nobody gets screwed too badly.

Cynic · 2019-05-13T23:22:21.554Z

What a shame, I can’t drive more than a mile and not see CalTrans hard at work here in California, seems like every other overpass/on-ramp etc… No complaints from me!

Maybe move to a better state?

FloridaYankee · 2019-05-13T23:22:31.757Z

Ha.

They could……………

calirepub · 2019-05-13T23:24:04.934Z

I’m sure that would never have negative ramifications.

FloridaYankee · 2019-05-13T23:24:48.803Z

LOL, ya think?

GWH · 2019-05-13T23:52:53.480Z

That’s why I say tires. Can’t roll without em.

Snow96 · 2019-05-13T23:57:18.116Z

conan:

And you wonder why I hate the goverment? I’m sure the road contractors with their politicians in there pocket for no bid contracts are sure enjoying it thou.

Only no bid contracts by UDOT are emergency repairs. By emergency – something that makes the road unusable or dangerous and can be quickly fixed. All the rest are bid. Utah does a weird thing on a lot of them. They do design/build contracts on the larger one’s. They design in stages so the construction starts on the first part while the design is still going on the last part.

Konssurvative1 · 2019-05-14T00:01:09.865Z

Come to Indiana…where at least you know your…mostly free. Illinois just keeps expendituring residents right out of the state.

conan · 2019-05-14T00:01:32.111Z

Not sure how it works but when I was in Ohio building a house for family member during Obama public work/stimulus work. The road out in front was grind up and repaved. But the problem with that the road was in excellent shape…but it ran through snobsville. Meanwhile the road that goes out to farming community had potholes everywhere…almost enough to swallow my brother jeep I was using. OK maybe not that bad but you get the picture.

Snow96 · 2019-05-14T00:02:15.834Z

How much per tire??? Last car I had . . . . in 6 years I bought 2 tires.

Snow96 · 2019-05-14T00:03:47.046Z

Wonder if it’s like here in Utah. State distributes class a,b,c and d road funds to the counties and cities. each class can only be used on certain roads.

Konssurvative1 · 2019-05-14T00:04:22.710Z

They tried to put this on truck drivers…and they staged a traffic slowdown on Good Friday. They drove 45 mph on the expressways, and backed up traffic thru Chicago horribly. Was that the reason they shifted this to car owners?

conan · 2019-05-14T00:05:17.503Z

Not sure. I just thought it was weird at the time, redoing a perfectly good road why ignoring other roads that really needed. But that road ran through libsville.

FloridaYankee · 2019-05-14T00:05:25.962Z

Snow96:

How much per tire??? Last car I had . . . . in 6 years I bought 2 tires.

It would have to be enough to equal all of the gas taxes you pay during the life of a set of tires. Average I think is about 40,000 miles. That’s a lot of taxes in one lump sum.

GWH · 2019-05-14T00:06:59.345Z

It won’t be cheap. But it would be the most direct way to go.

FloridaYankee · 2019-05-14T00:08:06.817Z

GWH:

It won’t be cheap. But it would be the most direct way to go.

The problem is having to pay it in a lump sum. Doubling or better the price of tires just won’t fly.