If God loves us unconditionally, why does he kill us instead of curing us?

[Gnostic_Bishop]

@Cratic3947

I’m not sure what sect of any monotheist religion calls Gods love unconditional. He’s forgiving in most of them, but there are rules… Like the 10 commandments…

IOW. There are conditions in unconditional love.

That is like the Christian 1+1+1=1

Both statements are the same type of Christian nonsense.

Regards
DL

[Gnostic_Bishop]

@Smyrna

It’s hard to see what’s moral, through immoral eyes.

You would know.

Care to discus the morals of a genocidal son murdering Yahweh/Jesus?

Regards
DL

[Meriweather]

@Gnostic_Bishop

Thanks for showing your position. You are as forthcoming as your absentee genocidal son murdering God.

Correction. I noted succinctly the post to which I was responding was wrong. I also elected not to pursue any twisted paths. The straight and narrow way works better.

[Gnostic_Bishop]

@Meriweather

Correction.

You corrected nothing and showed what a lousy apologist you are.

Keep it up as you do my work for me.

Regards
DL

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@AlexMcAlpine

@Meriweather

Had Saul won out, we would be reading that God sent an evil spirit into Samuel and David…

What I’m getting from your response is that you don’t believe that every word of the Bible is inerrant and inspired by God. Is that correct?

Yes, I have read up in Wikipedia on Saul and David and Joab, etc., and how Biblical scholars don’t believe they actually existed, etc. Just stories to tell the people.

Which must really annoy the literalists who believe that every word in the Bible is true as is stated therein.

Why do you think that I, a “literalist”, would be annoyed by what others believe- or don’t?

[AlexMcAlpine]

@Optrader

Why do you think that I, a “literalist”, would be annoyed by what others believe- or don’t?

Are you a literalist? I didn’t realize, or perhaps just didn’t remember.

Do you believe that Saul and David, etc existed and that there are no mistakes in the Bible?

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@AlexMcAlpine

@Optrader

Why do you think that I, a “literalist”, would be annoyed by what others believe- or don’t?

Are you a literalist? I didn’t realize, or perhaps just didn’t remember.

Do you believe that Saul and David, etc existed and that there are no mistakes in the Bible?

I’ve made no secret of my being a fundamentalist in my years here in the forum… I’m pretty sure it’s known.

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@Borgia_dude

If one goes the route of parts of the Bible being allegorical, the question of objectively determining which parts qualify as allegory becomes a bit of a problem.

Sure would be nice if God just cleared it up for us.

Now this is truly an excellent point. God is not the author of confusion and he has cleared it all up. That’s why I accept the truth of his word over the truths of man. Man is fallen and therefore fallible. Well intentioned men have lead countless people to hell. That is not Goods fault…

[Borgia_dude]

@Optrader

@Borgia_dude

If one goes the route of parts of the Bible being allegorical, the question of objectively determining which parts qualify as allegory becomes a bit of a problem.

Sure would be nice if God just cleared it up for us.

Now this is truly an excellent point. God is not the author of confusion and he has cleared it all up. That’s why I accept the truth of his word over the truths of man. Man is fallen and therefore fallible. Well intentioned men have lead countless people to hell. That is not Goods fault…

Simply declaring that Fod has cleared it all up does not mean he has. He lack of harmonization of the gospels is an example of him not clearing it up.

[Meriweather]

@Borgia_dude

He lack of harmonization of the gospels is an example of him not clearing it up.

What, specifically?

[Optrader]

@Borgia_dude

@Optrader

@Borgia_dude

If one goes the route of parts of the Bible being allegorical, the question of objectively determining which parts qualify as allegory becomes a bit of a problem.

Sure would be nice if God just cleared it up for us.

Now this is truly an excellent point. God is not the author of confusion and he has cleared it all up. That’s why I accept the truth of his word over the truths of man. Man is fallen and therefore fallible. Well intentioned men have lead countless people to hell. That is not Goods fault…

Simply declaring that Fod has cleared it all up does not mean he has. He lack of harmonization of the gospels is an example of him not clearing it up.

What I mean is, he left us his word, commands us to study that word under the guidance of the Holy Spirit and will lead us into all truth if we follow his command. Keep in mind the Bible is for believers, to the lost, it is foolishness. Salvation first- THEN study. Makes all the difference in the world…

[ImRightYoureWrong]

@Borgia_dude

Simply declaring that Fod has cleared it all up does not mean he has. He lack of harmonization of the gospels is an example of him not clearing it up.

I mean its 2000 years after christ…yet christians still cant agree

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@ImRightYoureWrong

@Borgia_dude

Simply declaring that Fod has cleared it all up does not mean he has. He lack of harmonization of the gospels is an example of him not clearing it up.

I mean its 2000 years after christ…yet christians still cant agree

The problem is that man doesn’t want to accept that there is a price on sin. If “Christians” would accept that, most every other difference would soon vanish. That’s the lie Satan has been pushing since Eden- no price…

[ImRightYoureWrong]

@Optrader

That’s the lie Satan has been pushing since Eden- no price…

I guess its never Gods fault

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@ImRightYoureWrong

@Optrader

That’s the lie Satan has been pushing since Eden- no price…

I guess its never Gods fault

Nope, never is. Why would your actions or beliefs be his fault? Aren’t you an atheist anyway?

[ImRightYoureWrong]

@Optrader

Nope, never is. Why would your actions or beliefs be his fault? Aren’t you an atheist anyway?

I’m having a discussion. If you are a republican does that mean you cant discuss liberal beliefs? Since God created everything and created the rules/frameworks for everything, he is at least partly responsible.

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@ImRightYoureWrong

@Optrader

Nope, never is. Why would your actions or beliefs be his fault? Aren’t you an atheist anyway?

I’m having a discussion. If you are a republican does that mean you cant discuss liberal beliefs? Since God created everything and created the rules/frameworks for everything, he is at least partly responsible.

He’s guilty of not being a tyrant and forcing everyone to accept him as he is.

[Optrader]

@ImRightYoureWrong

@Optrader

Nope, never is. Why would your actions or beliefs be his fault? Aren’t you an atheist anyway?

I’m having a discussion. If you are a republican does that mean you cant discuss liberal beliefs? Since God created everything and created the rules/frameworks for everything, he is at least partly responsible.

Would you prefer to have not been created?

[ImRightYoureWrong]

@Optrader

He’s guilty of not being a tyrant and forcing everyone to accept him as he is.

Oh so we dont have accept him in heaven?

[ImRightYoureWrong]

@Optrader

Would you prefer to have not been created?

I’d prefer God create heaven and be done. Instead of playing hunger games