ICE invasion: They scanned driver's licenses photos of millions of Americans without their knowledge using facial recognition technology

The New York Times and Washington Post both reported tonight that ICE has mined state driver’s licenses of millions of Americans using facial recognition techology and without the drivers’ permission. ICE officials did the surveying in Utah and Vermont. In Washington State, it was unclear whether they were able to.

The move has been criticized on both sides of the aisle. Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), a member of the House Oversight Committee, told the Times, “They’ve just given access to that to the FBI. No individual signed off on that when they renewed their driver’s license, got their driver’s licenses. They didn’t sign any waiver saying, ‘Oh, it’s okay to turn my information, my photo, over to the FBI.’ No elected officials voted for that to happen.”

The chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Reform, Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, has pledged to investigate the use of the technology in both public and private use…

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I’ve heard on this site that those who are critical of ICE and other immigration agencies are socialists and libs. I (sarcastically) expect many on here to continue to support ICE and this particular process.

Pfft, your driver license info has always been available to federal law enforcement.

From the OP’s own posted article.

The F.B.I., for example, has tapped state law enforcement’s troves of photos — primarily those for driver’s licenses and visa applications — for nearly a decade, according to a Government Accountability Office report. The bureau has run over 390,000 searches through databases that collectively hold over 640 million photos, F.B.I. officials said.

If you thought what was on your driver license was private, you aren’t all that bright. And I have exactly zero problem with law enforcement looking for matches of wanted criminals or illegal aliens using it.

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I just always assumed that is how they got the information for facial technology.

Well I mean, this is listed as number one under permissible uses of driver license information in New York Law…


(1) For use by any government agency, including any court or law enforcement agency, in carrying out its functions, or any private person or entity acting on behalf of a Federal, State, or local agency in carrying out its functions

and this is number four

(4) For use in connection with any civil, criminal, administrative, or arbitral proceeding in any Federal, State, or local court or agency or before any self-regulatory body, including the service of process, investigation in anticipation of litigation, and the execution or enforcement of judgments and orders, or pursuant to an order of a Federal, State,or local court

Always amusing when illegal aliens get hoisted by their own petards when they rush to sign up for goodies from democrats because they fail to understand how our laws and legal institutions work.

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They aren’t misusing citizens’ private data. They have photos of illegal immigrants who have had some brush with the law who they want to deport but who are hiding from the sentences allotted to them by laws enacted by the Congress.
They have a computer that searches the driver licence data base for matching pics. The algorithm ignores the pics of legal residents, including all citizens. It only red flags criminal illegals and throws up their details.

How many states issue DL to undocumented immigrants? I thought it was a small number.

California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Vermont and Washington and the District of Columbia. New York just passed a law allowing issuance as well but it has not gone into effect…

I find this absolutely ingenious and practical.

America works because we are a nation of laws applied with the presumption of innocence.

For immigrants to join this culture they must be legal from day 1 and that is how we all feel good about immigration and our system.

This effort is so simple and appropriate it merits applause.


Utah has a “real ID” compliant drivers license. If you are unable to give all the information required for that, you may be given a driving privlidge card. Right on that one it says not an official government ID. So for example, you can’t purchase booze at a liquore store. You can’t use it to board an airplane. Bacially the only thing it’s good for is to show an officer if you get pulled over for breaking traffic laws. Several states have them.

It’s not “your” driver’s license. It belongs to the issuing authority. It’s a permission slip used to identify.

And some of you were advocating a national ID law.

Libs complaining about big government being big government? :rofl:

Besides, this only affects white people, so who cares?

I have no problem with ICE using this technique to round up illegals.

Me either… I think this should be celebrated by the GOP and made a major campaign issue… It’s a winner

I don’t think Americans in general support illegals like some on the left seem to think.

The issue wouldn’t hurt them at all.

Agreed… Should be included in every debate… Americans love surveillance…

Oh, to long for the old days when small government republicans were staunchly against turning personal information over to the central government without a person’s approval. It seems like a million years ago.

In case anyone’s wondering, this facial recognition information could include any Republicans on this board, their families, extended families and friends.

Isn’t it funny how small government republicans say the central government can’t do anything right until, you know, they can.


Harmless to Americans. Illegals would be upset but who cares?

Who said we have to limit it to illegals?