I’ve Had It With PC 💩

[Janet_Miller]

I’d say the same for the individuals who design the totally unrealistic scenarios in so called unconscious bias training.

They should have community mental health care, not h r jobs.

[fallenturtle]

@Janet_Miller

If a man wants to dress up in women’s clothing like the Corporal Klinger character in MASH, live and let live, but do not pull students out of class for a lecture on why they need to call him Ms.

If such individuals really are such an issue to the school, include them in an online topic to cover for a short period of their day.

Klinger was cross-dressing in an attempt to be deemed crazy and kicked out of the military. That has absolutely nothing to do with transgender people so I don’t know why you would bring that up.

Transgender youth exist and therefore it should be taught in schools, but it should be taught in a class like sex ed or something, not a special event outside of class.

[Janet_Miller]

“Transgender youth exist and therefore it should be taught in schools, but it should be taught in a class like sex ed or something, not a special event outside of class.”

Hallelujah! On those points I agree.

[Liberty323]

@Dem

@Liberty323

I think the issue is it comes across as pretentious. How would it sound to most people if they called me something completely normal like “sir” and I said “from here on out you will refer to me as El Presidente”?

It would be more like if a Robert wanted to go by Bob, because he hates Robert.

But Conservatives want to continually call him Robert. It’s disrespectful.

That’s no problem, and I think if someone asks politely 99% of folks will have no issue. Unfortunately so many I’ve seen clips of are like the dude in Gamestop who yells “It’s ma’am!” and drops several f bombs and threatens with violence for the guy calling him sir.

[Liberty323]

I could watch that clip 100 times and laugh my ass off 100 times. That dude was over the top!

[Janet_Miller]

Here’s another one politely asking to be called Ma’am:

Trans Person Freaks Out At Popeyes After Hearing Employee Say 'Sir'

I’m sad there isn’t a Popeye’s close by or I’d go get a bucket

[Liberty323]

So many are unhinged and miserable.

[Dem]

@Liberty323

@Dem

@Liberty323

I think the issue is it comes across as pretentious. How would it sound to most people if they called me something completely normal like “sir” and I said “from here on out you will refer to me as El Presidente”?

It would be more like if a Robert wanted to go by Bob, because he hates Robert.

But Conservatives want to continually call him Robert. It’s disrespectful.

That’s no problem, and I think if someone asks politely 99% of folks will have no issue. Unfortunately so many I’ve seen clips of are like the dude in Gamestop who yells “It’s ma’am!” and drops several f bombs and threatens with violence for the guy calling him sir.

1. People freak out on employees all the time. Especially when frustrated.

2. Have you read on what she has said on the issue? After correcting the employee, he continued to call her sir. That’s blatant disrespect.

[fallenturtle]

@Dem

@Liberty323

@Dem

@Liberty323

I think the issue is it comes across as pretentious. How would it sound to most people if they called me something completely normal like “sir” and I said “from here on out you will refer to me as El Presidente”?

It would be more like if a Robert wanted to go by Bob, because he hates Robert.

But Conservatives want to continually call him Robert. It’s disrespectful.

That’s no problem, and I think if someone asks politely 99% of folks will have no issue. Unfortunately so many I’ve seen clips of are like the dude in Gamestop who yells “It’s ma’am!” and drops several f bombs and threatens with violence for the guy calling him sir.

1. People freak out on employees all the time. Especially when frustrated.

2. Have you read on what she has said on the issue? After correcting the employee, he continued to call her sir. That’s blatant disrespect.

There’s a handful of videos of trans people getting upset over misgendering and apparently we’re suppose to take this as evidence that all trans people immediately will flip out at you if you initially misgender them. It’s like if I were to post a handful of clips of republicans saying super racist ■■■■ and be like, “look, all republicans are super racist!”

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

@Samm

It’s trite to say it, but if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, nobody should be upset if you call it a duck.

Just be polite and if they correct you switch to the appropriate pronouns.

If politeness is reciprocated, I’m always polite.

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@Samm

It’s trite to say it, but if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, nobody should be upset if you call it a duck.

Just be polite and if they correct you switch to the appropriate pronouns.

If politeness is reciprocated, I’m always polite.

Good.

[Samm]

@Dem

@Liberty323

I think the issue is it comes across as pretentious. How would it sound to most people if they called me something completely normal like “sir” and I said “from here on out you will refer to me as El Presidente”?

It would be more like if a Robert wanted to go by Bob, because he hates Robert.

But Conservatives want to continually call him Robert. It’s disrespectful.

No … Calling him Bobby henceforth would be disrespectful.

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

@Liberty323

@fallenturtle

@Samm

It’s trite to say it, but if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, nobody should be upset if you call it a duck.

Just be polite and if they correct you switch to the appropriate pronouns.

I think the issue is it comes across as pretentious. How would it sound to most people if they called me something completely normal like “sir” and I said “from here on out you will refer to me as El Presidente”?

If someone asked you to call them “El Presidente” that would be pretentious, but thats not the situation here. When I was a teenager I had really long hair and was occasionally misgendered. Was I being pretentious to correct them? My mother was an alto and often got misgendered as a man on the phone. Was she being pretentious when she corrected the caller? Y’all are acting like misgendering is a new thing created by transgender people.

Your examples are both within the context of two sexes … male and female, he and she, him and her, sir and ma’am. Anyone has at least a fifty fifty chance if getting it right and in reality, better than a 99-1 chance. Today the odds are as poor as one in twenty.

[Samm]

@fallenturtle

@Janet_Miller

If a man wants to dress up in women’s clothing like the Corporal Klinger character in MASH, live and let live, but do not pull students out of class for a lecture on why they need to call him Ms.

If such individuals really are such an issue to the school, include them in an online topic to cover for a short period of their day.

Klinger was cross-dressing in an attempt to be deemed crazy and kicked out of the military. That has absolutely nothing to do with transgender people so I don’t know why you would bring that up.

Transgender youth exist and therefore it should be taught in schools, but it should be taught in a class like sex ed or something, not a special event outside of class.

That brings up a point … How does one tell the difference between a transgender and a transvestite?

[Samm]

@Dem

@Liberty323

@Dem

@Liberty323

I think the issue is it comes across as pretentious. How would it sound to most people if they called me something completely normal like “sir” and I said “from here on out you will refer to me as El Presidente”?

It would be more like if a Robert wanted to go by Bob, because he hates Robert.

But Conservatives want to continually call him Robert. It’s disrespectful.

That’s no problem, and I think if someone asks politely 99% of folks will have no issue. Unfortunately so many I’ve seen clips of are like the dude in Gamestop who yells “It’s ma’am!” and drops several f bombs and threatens with violence for the guy calling him sir.

1. People freak out on employees all the time. Especially when frustrated.

2. Have you read on what she has said on the issue? After correcting the employee, he continued to call her sir. That’s blatant disrespect.

Is Marcie being disrespectful?

[Samm]

Okay … Maybe she was.

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@Liberty323

@fallenturtle

@Samm

It’s trite to say it, but if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, nobody should be upset if you call it a duck.

Just be polite and if they correct you switch to the appropriate pronouns.

I think the issue is it comes across as pretentious. How would it sound to most people if they called me something completely normal like “sir” and I said “from here on out you will refer to me as El Presidente”?

If someone asked you to call them “El Presidente” that would be pretentious, but thats not the situation here. When I was a teenager I had really long hair and was occasionally misgendered. Was I being pretentious to correct them? My mother was an alto and often got misgendered as a man on the phone. Was she being pretentious when she corrected the caller? Y’all are acting like misgendering is a new thing created by transgender people.

Your examples are both within the context of two sexes … male and female, he and she, him and her, sir and ma’am. Anyone has at least a fifty fifty chance if getting it right and in reality, better than a 99-1 chance. Today the odds are as poor as one in twenty.

Sir and ma’am are a challenge in that there aren’t really gender neutral alternatives that I’m aware of. But they’re also words you don’t really need to use. I think almost everyone defaults to assuming male or female since non-binary is uncommon, so I’d be really shocked if a non-binary person gave you ■■■■ for initially misgendering them. The issue isn’t getting it wrong the first time, the issue is when one purposely misgenders someone despite knowing their gender identity and/or pronouns.

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

@fallenturtle

@Janet_Miller

If a man wants to dress up in women’s clothing like the Corporal Klinger character in MASH, live and let live, but do not pull students out of class for a lecture on why they need to call him Ms.

If such individuals really are such an issue to the school, include them in an online topic to cover for a short period of their day.

Klinger was cross-dressing in an attempt to be deemed crazy and kicked out of the military. That has absolutely nothing to do with transgender people so I don’t know why you would bring that up.

Transgender youth exist and therefore it should be taught in schools, but it should be taught in a class like sex ed or something, not a special event outside of class.

That brings up a point … How does one tell the difference between a transgender and a transvestite?

I’m not sure you can on appearance alone… but ultimately I don’t think it matters since the rules of engagement, so to speak, are the same.

[fallenturtle]

@Samm

Okay … Maybe she was.

“Sir” is weird because I’ve seen it used in both gender specific contexts and gender neutral contexts. I also read Marcie’s use of it has being simply an honorific and not misgendering.

[rp5x5]

@fallenturtle

It’s like if I were to post a handful of clips of republicans saying super racist ■■■■ and be like, “look, all republicans are super racist!”

And that happens all the time. It’s ubiquitous. Trump supporters are banned for any made up reason on social media and main stream media.