I wish you and your definition of socialism were around during the Obama administration.
No you defined means of production as being all four. Thatâs your definition. Socialism can be where there is control of all four but it does not have to. It is a purity test.
I defined? Ok. Look up the definition of means of production and get back to me. Show me where it refers to only one of the four. Iâll wait.
Uh, no. Itâs basically public ownership of the oil resources and the residents of Alaska get a check for the dividends funded from proceeds when they sell it to the oil companies.
Yes the public owns the oil and the land it sits on. The public doesnât own the oil company, the labor hired by the oil company, or the equipment the oil company uses to extract said oil. Like I said.
Great, so itâs socialized ownership of the resources. Glad we could agree. Now letâs do this at the federal level 
Means of production can include all four. Socialism doesnât require it. It does according to purists. It doesnât according to its broad definition. Socialism is the involvement of government in controlling resources for the purposes of redistribution not necessarily the control of all resources.
Talk to your reps.
And you promise you wonât scream socialism and explain to those who do?
Thatâs not th definition I read. Whoâs making â â â â up now?
You are not reading what i wrote. I am agreeing with you means of production includes all four. Socialism does not require the control of all four.
Why would I? Iâm not the one complaining about Alaska either. I wish my state reps made a similar deal. They just sold the land out from under us.
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Complaining⌠come on. A red state supporting state controlled redistribution. Lol
I read what you wrote.
As a whole. I donât see âin partâ anywhere.
You call it state controlled redistribution, I call it fair compensation. Go figure.
Nope. Royalties the state gets are put into whatâs known as the community impact account. Cities and counties that are impacted by resource removal can apply for loans/grants from the community impact board for things that help the communities. Water systems, fire trucks, sidewalks, roads, community centers.
The City I live in just submitted a 4 million dollar 50/50 (50% grand 50% low interest loan) application to work on roads.
McDeeâs BK, Wendyâs arbyâs even a walmart 
Is there another word for âthe government taking a share of the money from a private enterprise and redistributing it to the publicâ?
You seem confused. Maybe you should look up the actual law before commenting on it. Itâs not redistribution. The money goes into a fund before it gets to the people. If taxes arenât redistribution, this isnât either.
When taxes are paid directly to people, they are redistribution.
