I thought coal was back

Samm · 2019-10-30T03:34:59.731Z

Kevhead:

wiley8425:

And you’re still wrong. The public doesn’t own the oil companies. They own the land the oil companies drill on though. Maybe that’s where you’re confused.

Dont all the us citizens own the land? If you live in Alaska you automatically own part of Alaska?

No. You are probably confused by the wording in the State Constitution that says natural resources are retained by the State for the maximum benefit of the people. In other words, if valuable minerals are found on your property, you don’t own them. All you have are surface rights.

Samm · 2019-10-30T03:38:02.146Z

madasheck:

Samm:

moonshine:

trump promised that coal was back.
he couldnt have lied could he?

One Of America's Oldest Coal Companies Just Filed For Bankruptcy

Gosh. I don’t know. It seems to be doing just fine here. A new coal power plant just went on line this summer about a hundred miles down the road and another one is in warm-up test status not a mile from my house.

The air in your area must be wonderful to breathe.

It probably better than what you breathe the vast majority of the time. We do have a PM2.5 problem when we experience severe temperature inversions, but that is primarily from wood and diesel smoke, not coal.

madasheck · 2019-10-30T03:39:33.671Z

In case someone didn’t post this.

https://mobile.twitter.com/business/status/1189201510930026496

Samm · 2019-10-30T03:42:22.755Z

GrandWazoo:

Samm:

Gosh. I don’t know. It seems to be doing just fine here. A new coal power plant just went on line this summer about a hundred miles down the road and another one is in warm-up test status not a mile from my house.

I found this article:
POLITICO Pro

Is this the new plant you are talking about? If not, where is it that you are referring to?

Yes that’s the one near my house. The other is about 100 miles south west of here at Healy … where another power plant and the coal mine are.

Samm · 2019-10-30T03:44:39.738Z

sikofit:

Yeah 1 new plant in the entire country while company after compnay declares bankruptcy is hardly “doing fine”

I said “doing fine here” not “doing fine.”

Hexenbiest · 2019-10-30T04:48:12.365Z

China and India is picking up were the west left off with coal, except at a much scarier level.

WildRose · 2019-10-30T05:15:11.505Z

No, the people of the state own equal shares of the resources which are extracted by private companies that bid on them.

LucyLou · 2019-10-30T05:36:25.361Z

Samm:

sikofit:

Yeah 1 new plant in the entire country while company after compnay declares bankruptcy is hardly “doing fine”

I said “doing fine here” not “doing fine.”

Well that’s good.

Because it’s not “doing fine”.

You are correct.

westaussie · 2019-10-30T11:47:29.878Z

Hilarious.

westaussie · 2019-10-30T11:50:05.412Z

Perhaps Trump should return the donations so they can be used to pay some of the debts owing.

sikofit · 2019-10-30T14:39:22.925Z

Samm:

sikofit:

Yeah 1 new plant in the entire country while company after compnay declares bankruptcy is hardly “doing fine”

I said “doing fine here” not “doing fine.”

Are you really trying to assert that you weren’t trying to refute the OP and merely relaying an meaningless anecdote ?

Samm · 2019-10-30T21:47:01.463Z

westaussie:

Hilarious.

I’m sure you thought that you were making a valid point, but as it turns out you weren’t.

H_Arendt · 2019-10-30T21:52:41.603Z

wiley8425:

It’s not socialism, it’s capitalism. Money in exchange for goods. Socialism would be giving oil companies unfettered rights “for the common good.”

So now enabling privately held companies is socialism? Really?

Samm · 2019-10-30T21:54:01.110Z

sikofit:

Samm:

sikofit:

Yeah 1 new plant in the entire country while company after compnay declares bankruptcy is hardly “doing fine”

I said “doing fine here” not “doing fine.”

Are you really trying to assert that you weren’t trying to refute the OP and merely relaying an meaningless anecdote ?

Nope. But since you take offense at your interpretation. Look at US coal exports … they are up considerably since 2006. In fact they are higher now than the previous historic peak export year of 1981. “Doing fine” is subjective at best.

wiley8425 · 2019-10-30T23:15:15.671Z

They wouldn’t be private companies. They’d be publicly owned.

Steel-W0LF · 2019-10-31T02:47:10.972Z

I’m fine with coal being replaced by better forms of energy.

What I’m against is the government artificially making coal less viable while at the same time trying to force new energy to be viable.

It’ll happen when new technology is ready. It would be like if in the 80s government implemented policies to make landline phones more expensive and mobile phones cheaper. The tech wasn’t ready for the shift, but now it has basically happened on its own.

westaussie · 2019-10-31T05:27:54.281Z

It is hilarious that you think that the start date of the construction is not relevant.

wiley8425 · 2019-10-31T06:36:33.753Z

If their state is cool with it, it’s none of my business. Or yours.

Samm · 2019-10-31T08:13:33.198Z

westaussie:

It is hilarious that you think that the start date of the construction is not relevant.

What do you think that the relevance would be? Coal use has been on the decline in this country for decades. However, the plant just constructed a mile from my house took about 3 years from ground breaking to operation. The other plant was a modern refit of an older fluidized bed demonstration plant that had never been certified. The refit took about four years. So make your point if you have one.

westaussie · 2019-10-31T08:15:02.099Z

The point is self-evident.