I know I am Conservative but Anti-vaxxers are starting to piss me off

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

When Centgov Inc mandates, it is no longer non-partisan.

Are seat belt mandates partisan?

Are drug laws partisan?

Are drinking age bans partisan?

Not now, they all were.

[tnt]

@WuWei

Not now, they all were.

Bu they are not now.

But Centgov is mandating them.

[Conservative_frk]

None of those things are forcing me to put something into my body.

[tnt]

@Conservative_frk

None of those things are forcing me to put something into my body.

Existing vaccine mandates sure are.

[Conservative_frk]

No they aren’t. There are exemptions.

And I will add that up until recently no one but myself and the person who files those exemptions knew about it.

No one in my kids school knew which vax they had either. And I’ll be clear again. I am not anti vax. I am pro medical freedom. I get to choose what goes in my body. Not you, not my doctor, not the President of the USA. ME!

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

Not now, they all were.

Bu they are not now.

But Centgov is mandating them.

Correct. The human capacity for rationalization is impressive. And you have clearly shown there is no difference between the parties.

Is there a Centgov seatbelt law? Where can I find it?

What is the Centgov drinking age?

[WuWei]

@tnt

@Conservative_frk

None of those things are forcing me to put something into my body.

Existing vaccine mandates sure are.

What vaccines are adult citizens mandated?

[tnt]

@Conservative_frk

No they aren’t. There are exemptions.

And I will add that up until recently no one but myself and the person who files those exemptions knew about it.

No one in my kids school knew which vax they had either. And I’ll be clear again. I am not anti vax. I am pro medical freedom. I get to choose what goes in my body. Not you, not my doctor, not the President of the USA. ME!

Why wouldn’t you think there would be exemptions for this vax either?

Why wouldn’t this vaccination be exactly like all the others you and your kids have been mandated to take?

[tnt]

@WuWei

Correct. The human capacity for rationalization is impressive. And you have clearly shown there is no difference between the parties.

Is there a Centgov seatbelt law? Where can I find it?

What is the Centgov drinking age?

Great, so we’re going to play the ‘well, its the states not the fed’ game now…

Fine with me. The vax laws for admission to school at state laws as well.

Covid vaccines will be treated the same way.

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

Correct. The human capacity for rationalization is impressive. And you have clearly shown there is no difference between the parties.

Is there a Centgov seatbelt law? Where can I find it?

What is the Centgov drinking age?

Great, so we’re going to play the ‘well, its the states not the fed’ game now…

Fine with me. The vax laws for admission to school at state laws as well.

Covid vaccines will be treated the same way.

No they won’t. Centgov is using OSHA.

[tnt]

@WuWei

What vaccines are adult citizens mandated?

Plenty if they are in the armed forces.

Plenty if they are attending schools or certain jobs.

Basially all the same ones required to enter school at a young age. The military has more.

How is this one different?

[WuWei]

@tnt

Plenty if they are in the armed forces.

Are you in the “Armed Forces”? I’m not.

@tnt

Plenty if they are attending schools or certain jobs.

What jobs does Centgov mandate a vaccine for?

@tnt

Basially all the same ones required to enter school at a young age. The military has more.

How is this one different?

I am not in school, at a young age, nor in armed forces.

[johnwk2]

@Striker840

@tnt

@Striker840

So me, my wife, AND my daughter are anomalies?
FYI, my daughter is not my wife’s daughter.

ALL I am saying is making a blanket statement such as you did in saying preventable is not correct.

OK. A simple vaccine that makes hospitalization or death from the virus largely - not completely - but largely preventable.

Better?

Should we all get vaccinated, or would you rather we start building more hospitals and calling up the NG to staff them? Which seems like a more elegant cost effective solution?

that was the point of my statement.

That is more accurate, and I have no problem in saying as such. Yet, we’re we not told that when this vaccine came out it would slow this crap down?

I have said consistently that I think all who can get the vaccine SHOULD. Also, seems to me we did put up field hospitals plus use of 2 hospital ships yet they hardly were utilized.

The bottom line at this point in time is . . . the virus is here to stay for a very, very long time. Learn to live with it, by treating it.

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.

[johnwk2]

@PurpnGold

@DMK

How about the immigrants flooding our country who aren’t required to get a vaccine?

I believe @tnt has made his position clear on migrants and vaccines. He believes they should be mandated.

I on the other hand do not. Once US citizens are required, then I say make them required for immigrants.

Illegal and legal entrants are not citizens and most certainly may be treated different, especially in promoting the general welfare of the United States and her citizens.

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.

[tnt]

@WuWei

What jobs does Centgov mandate a vaccine for?

You didn’t specific the federal government. You asked what vaccines were mandated for American adults.

@WuWei

I am not in school, at a young age, nor in armed forces.

And yet you have received a dozen or so mandated vaccines.

Why would the covid vaccine be any different?

[tnt]

@johnwk2

Learn to live with it, by treating it.

…and by getting vaccinated against it which is our fastest route to a more normal life in america.

[PurpnGold]

@johnwk2

Illegal and legal entrants are not citizens and most certainly may be treated different, especially in promoting the general welfare of the United States and her citizens.

The constitution applies to legal immigrants, right?

[johnwk2]

@tnt

@johnwk2

Learn to live with it, by treating it.

…and by getting vaccinated against it which is our fastest route to a more normal life in america.

Is that so? I appreciate you speculative notion but the fully vaccinated are now one of our nation’s super spreaders of the virus.

As I correctly pointed out:

The bottom line at this point in time is . . . the virus is here to stay for a very, very long time. Learn to live with it, by treating it.

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.

[Striker840]

@Borgia_dude

@Striker840

Did we have asymptomatic, mild, and severe cases pre-vaccine.

Simple yes or no answer.
Yes we did

Are we seeing post-vaccine the same?
Yes we are.

Yes and yes but it is incredibly disingenuous to not include rates here. Incredibly disingenuous. That is where the statistical proof of efficacy lies, not in the tails of a distribution.

You just illustrated a point I was trying to make. Riddle me this: In your opinion, does the average person think/analyze/rationalize the same as you?

Answer is no, many people do NOT process the same way you do. My point is, to Joe next door. He WILL look at it that way, that is exactly how they look at covid, vaccine, etc. Sometimes you have to “break it down Barney Style”. Dumb it down, etc because the average Joe DOES look at it that way.

We had asymptomatic…before the vaccine.
" " AFTER the vaccine, so why get it if it doesn’t change much.

The message needs to change.

[gooddad409]

@DMK

@tnt

Why should we as tax payers have to carry the burden of caring for those who ignore a simple cheap way to mitigate this misery?

Conservatives love to forget to deny food and rent assistance claiming it is not the tax based job to carry the load for people’s bad decisions .

Now you want us to pay for more hospitals because people won’t take a vaccination?

Conservatives? I don’t know any on this board who haven’t taken the vaccine.

How about the immigrants flooding our country who aren’t required to get a vaccine?

Do you want them sick and taking up a bed when you need one because you had a heart attack?

Yeah Spin Psaki admitted they don’t require vaccinations for illegals. Many of the bunch are infected to start with.

Then they ship them off to mostly red states. Intentional no doubt.

Last i heard it was more POC lagging in vaccinations anyway rather than conservatives.