"I have to live with someone else's choice"

[adroit]

@Steel-W0LF

That logic is already on display in this thread.

If abortion in Russia wasn’t illegal than it wouldn’t have been a failed abortion.

I.e. he would be dead instead of disfigured.

What you just said isn’t the same thing as what Calvin asserted.

The pro-choice argument isn’t that it’s better to abort than to birth the child and give it up for adoption. It doesn’t make such a normative argument. The pro-choice position is that a woman has autonomy over her body and it’s her decision whether to abort or carry to term.

[Jezcoe]

@Guvnah

@Jezcoe

What the governor of Virginia was speaking about was giving palliative care to a dying baby.

I don’t know why that part is twisted so much.

Because the proposed VA legislation was NOT about palliative care to a dying baby. The VA governor (as well as Pete Buttigieg and many others) tried to inject that as an emotional example to mask the actual implications of these proposed laws.

You are correct. The VA legislation was not about palliative care to a dying baby. The fact that what the governor said was completely misrepresented should say something.

What the VA legislation was about was removing a barrier for a woman to get medical care during the last two trimesters of her pregnancy.

Oooooh scary stuff.

[adroit]

@WuWei

Charlie Gard

The Charlie Gard case wasn’t a matter of hospice. It was a matter of not allowing swindlers to unethically provide a false sense of hope to parents of a terminal baby that was already brain dead.

[WuWei]

@adroit

@WuWei

Charlie Gard

The Charlie Gard case wasn’t a matter of hospice. It was a matter of not allowing swindlers to unethically provide a false sense of hope to parents of a terminal baby that was already brain dead.

Interesting. Is that a function of government? Crushing hope?

“Swindlers”? You have some evidence of this?

[adroit]

@Roxiebelle

They are literally celebrating laws to allow abortion up to the due date and even after an infant survives and is born alive!

Bull ■■■■■■■ ■■■■■ I’m going to call you out on this lie every ■■■■■■■ time. Because it’s grotesque. You’re distorting the incredibly hard decisions parents have to make for their non viable, terminally ill children and it’s sick. Shame on you.

[SimplyTrying]

@Guvnah

@SimplyTrying

Please stop with the stupid whataboutisms.

Why? Truth hurts?

It’s a direct example addressing what you posted.

How many gun deaths will it take till we know that too many people have died?

Not too many hero’s who survived attempted abortion. Leave the man alone!

[adroit]

@WuWei

Interesting. Is that a function of government? Crushing hope?

“Swindlers”? You have some evidence of this?

Yeah, a doctor claiming he has a treatment that would be effective without even looking at the brain scans of the child, extending the appeal process, and then conceding that the case is beyond treatable once he does actually look at the latest facts is a attention seeking swindler. It was unprofessional and unethical.

[WuWei]

@adroit

@Roxiebelle

They are literally celebrating laws to allow abortion up to the due date and even after an infant survives and is born alive!

Bull ■■■■■■■ ■■■■■ I’m going to call you out on this lie every ■■■■■■■ time. Because it’s grotesque. You’re distorting the incredibly hard decisions parents have to make for their non viable, terminally ill children and it’s sick. Shame on you.

How do you justify it being the woman’s choice in the 1st and 2nd trimesters and not the 3rd?

[adroit]

@WuWei

How do you justify it being the woman’s choice in the 1st and 2nd trimesters and not the 3rd?

A viable baby in the third trimester isn’t aborted in the US (exceptional cases not withstanding). That’s called a delivery.

[WuWei]

@adroit

@WuWei

Interesting. Is that a function of government? Crushing hope?

“Swindlers”? You have some evidence of this?

Yeah, a doctor claiming he has a treatment that would be effective without even looking at the brain scans of the child, extending the appeal process, and then conceding that the case is beyond treatable once he does actually look at the latest facts is a attention seeking swindler. It was unprofessional and unethical.

Your opinion is not evidence.

[WuWei]

@adroit

@WuWei

How do you justify it being the woman’s choice in the 1st and 2nd trimesters and not the 3rd?

A viable baby in the third trimester isn’t aborted in the US. That’s called a delivery.

That’s not what I asked you.

[mobiusptc]

@WuWei

Biased source.

got a better “legitimate” one?

[adroit]

@WuWei

Your opinion is not evidence.

The facts of the case are evidence. That’s what happened. If you’ve actually read the court documents about it, you’d know what I’m talking about.

[WuWei]

@mobiusptc

@WuWei

Biased source.

got a better “legitimate” one?

There isn’t one.

[WuWei]

@adroit

@WuWei

Your opinion is not evidence.

The facts of the case are evidence. That’s what happened. If you’ve actually read the court documents about it, you’d know what I’m talking about.

Let’s see the swindler’s quote.

[adroit]

@WuWei

That’s not what I asked you.

Have you read Casey?

[WuWei]

@adroit

@WuWei

That’s not what I asked you.

Have you read Casey?

That’s not what I asked you. Do you need me to repeat my question?

[SimplyTrying]

@Guvnah

@CanadianJudo

There is no liberal policy that allow abortion after birth.

Yet.

There was no concept of elective 3rd trimester abortions or gender-selection abortions back when R.v.W passed, but look where the slippery slope has brought us already.

That’s ridiculous. I have more faith in my fellow man to know that we will never allow such atrocities.

I can’t explain why in the world my fellow man elected an idiot and a fraud though. Now that was slippery.

[mobiusptc]

@WuWei

@mobiusptc

@WuWei

Biased source.

got a better “legitimate” one?

There isn’t one.

so a simple" no i don’t have a better source then an organization who’s has been sourced equally by both side from National Right to Life and American Life league to Family Research Council and planned parenthood"

would have suficed

[WuWei]

@mobiusptc

so a simple" no i don’t have a better source then an organization who’s has been sourced equally by both side from National Right to Life and American Life league to Family Research Council and planned parenthood"

would have suficed

It is a biased source.