First image is 10 largest population drops by percentage, the second is 10 largest population drops by raw numbers.

4 of 5 New York City Boroughs (excluding Richmond County (Staten Island)) were included.

Williams County, North Dakota had a massive oil spike that is now busting, which explains their presence on this list.

Calcasieu Parish, Louisiana suffered from back to back hurricane strikes, explaining its presence on the list.

Phoenix, Arizona, and various cities in Texas continue to grow. Florida is doing well other than Miami-Dade.

Good.

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Good.

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exporting liberalism is not a good thing

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Distasteful as it might be, no criminal threats were made, so it falls under the First Amendment.

May be that the conservatives are leaving woke lib hell holes.

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I wonder what the economy of palm beach would look like without yankees.

After ruining where they are, they shouldn’t be allowed to move and must remain. They should be given the opportunity to leave only after the damage is repaired and they’ve learned from their mistakes…until then…keep your arrogant asses there. :sunglasses: :tumbler_glass:

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Transplants are a plague. Like kudzu.

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…with mouths flapping in the wind telling you how their way is better. :wink:

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The story plays out locally but is national in scope. It is the story of people leaving high-cost cities because they’ve been priced out or become fed up with how impossible the housing problem seems. Then it becomes the story of a city trying to tame prices by building more housing, followed by the story of neighbors fighting to prevent it, followed by the story of less expensive cities being deluged with buyers from more expensive cities, followed by the less expensive cities descending into the same problems and struggling with the same solutions.

It’s easier to change where we live than it is to change how we live.

Whether it’s Boise or Reno or Portland or Austin, the American housing market is caught in a vicious cycle of broken expectations that operates like a food chain: The sharks flee New York and Los Angeles and gobble up the housing in Austin and Portland, whose priced-out home buyers swim to the cheaper feeding grounds of places like Spokane. The cycle brings bitterness and “Don’t Move Here” bumper stickers — and in Spokane it has been supercharged during the pandemic and companies’ shift to remote work.

No matter how many times it happens, no matter how many cities and states try to blunt it with recommendations to build more housing and provide subsidies for those who can’t afford the new stuff, no matter how many zoning battles are fought or homeless camps lamented, no next city, as of yet, seems better prepared than the last one was

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Zoning something I have addressed a number of times.

While I stridently oppose Federal mandates in this area, localities desperately need to rethink zoning.

First of all, some single family zoning needs to be converted to medium or high density residential. And square footage requirements and requirements for garages need to be dialed back in some areas.

Lower income single family home communities could be created with smaller lot requirements, no garage or carport requirement and minus other requirements that drive up costs.

Most requirements in single family residential are included with the thought of driving up tax revenues on each property. But at the same time, they drive the lower class out of home ownership.

Ironically, I drive through Surry County and go past vacant structure after vacant structure. Pity we can’t move these houses down to the city where they are needed. :smile:

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Why?

What if I don’t want to live next to an apartment building full of transient shift workers?

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And there we are.

One post lays out the problem in full

NOT IN MY BACKYARD!

But we will start out with the question why?

We have a 5 million deficit in residential units, driving up prices and directly causing homelessness in many cases, and unnecessary costs for millions of people.

And almost all that shortage is self inflicted by zoning authorities. Zoning that either outright prohibits or makes virtually impossible the construction of high density residential. There will NEVER be enough single family homes to supply residency needs and even if there were, many people cannot afford the cost.

Believe it or not, it is quite possible to lay out development so that a single family home is not sitting directly across the street from a mid rise. There can be zones of mixed high density within larger zones of single family, with separate entrances.

City planners just need to accept the lower tax revenues (offset by reduced infrastructure needs) that come from greater density of housing. They also need to stop giving into NIMBYism.

And a moderate amount of high density is NOT going to turn the suburbs into an urban warzone.

In a VERY rare show of productive legislating, California has banned single family residential zoning statewide. Extreme, but in California’s case absolutely necessary. Several cities around the country have done so as well.

Other cities with zoning issues need to step up and reform their zoning ordinances.

Now I don’t support abolition of single family zoning where it is not necessary and I recognize that each city is unique. Some cities have sufficient housing and do not need reform. Others have a smaller shortage, requiring a smaller level of reform.

But where there is a severe shortage of housing, existing single family zoning needs to be converted to medium or high density residential and if necessary, developers should be required to construct medium or high density as a specified percentage of their total construction, until housing shortages are mitigated.

Another fix is the conversion of outdated commercial zoned property to high density residential or mixed residential commercial.

But above all, there should be no structural barrier to building high density residential as long as a severe housing shortage exists.

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Didn’t you buy or have a place up in Mountains? How would you like a developer buy land next to you and put in a high rise of cheap apartments and all the infrastructure that would have to be put in to accommodate.

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I say the same thing when Texans move here to jersey.

Allan

:rofl: Well, that doesn’t happen.

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:rofl: :joy: :sweat_smile:…cept that never happened where y’all live? :sunglasses: :tumbler_glass:

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This needs to be repeated.