I guess government cannot magically implement a so-called living wage without there being consequesces?

I’m sure there’s a number of us here who are not at all surprised by this:


*Discussing the economic realities of significant wage increases, Tom Manzo said, “You can only raise prices so much. And you’re seeing it. People are not going to pay $20 for a Big Mac. It’s not going to happen.” *

This quote captures the tension between rising operational costs and consumer price sensitivity.

I’ve noticed in NJ that many fast-food chains almost exclusively rely on KIOSK for people to order from, and just pick up the food when ready.

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The end result of this "V"irtuous stupidity was/is predictable and what’s happening in California is the perfect example.

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Noooooo! I don’t believe it! CNC disinformation! Truuuump!


I can’t believe people eat at fast food places anymore. I used to back in the 80s, 90s, and the first 10 years of the new century. But in the last 15 years I’ve been to McDonalds once, and Wendy’s once. I now buy most of my treats at the supermarket.

Wendy’s wasn’t terrible. A chicken sandwich, large fries, and a drink for 11 and change.

About 10 or so years ago a McDonalds. I don’t remember the price, just the awful quality of the food. Couldn’t eat it. I’ll never go again.


An impoverished society is easier to control. That’s always been the intent of progressive policy.


This outrage disproportionately affects ADOS! It’s racist!

“It’s a starter industry,” Manzo said. “You get a job as a kid working in a fast food restaurant and you learn some good work ethic and that takes you into life.”

His opinion can go in the garbage.

Sure, McDonald’s can be a lifetime career if consumers are willing to pay for it.


Would’ve happened regardless of whatever wage they have to pay.


Businesses like Chipotle Mexican Grill Inc. and McDonald’s Corp. have already raised their prices in anticipation of the wage hike. But the impact is not just on prices but also on employment. Over 1,200 Pizza Hut drivers in California face layoffs, with companies opting for delivery services like DoorDash and Uber Eats instead. The new minimum wage law, signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom, is seen as both a boon and a bane.


What businesses do you own?


But it didn’t.

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Based on his posting history, he likely believes it’s immoral for anyone to own a business.


They aren’t hiring kids anymore for those wages either. :wink:


These types of jobs were never viewed as the types of jobs one gets to support a family. Back in the day it was just teenage kids working there whereas as today it’s just as many adults, if not more, than teenagers


In addition, only around 1% of American adults actually work those minimum wage jobs. This is the ultimate virtue signal for progressives, and it doesn’t matter if they worsen the economy over it. People still have the freedom to change jobs, at least for now. We’re not under national single party rule - yet.


That’s right.

Around here it works something like this:

  • Starting wage McDonald’s or Walmart: $17/hour

But if you don’t stay at the lowest rung your entire life:

  • Wage after 1 promotion, shift supervisor, deli manager etc): $24
    (Not a difficult goal if you have 2-3 years exp.)
  • annual income at $24/hour: $48,000
  • Family of two incomes, both person age 21 both shift supervisors at McDs: $96,000

Which basically buys this:

With a 2-car detached garage (cause we don’t have basements here)


The economy is not looking real good,
but that is a far different statement from “America is over. It’s tougher than it used to be. It’s impossible to make a decent living anymore.”

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Or show up every day and do your job for 1 year.


LOL yeah 1 year would be quick, but I am sure people have done it.

I was thinking:
2-3 years after graduation kid gets a promotion.
Two kids with just one promotion each and they’re making $96k/year.

If folks don’t have a house like the above by age 30, it’s not because “America is over.” It’s because they partied until they were 30 and/or had multiple kids before they got married.


Not when everyone else is undependable.