I deeply regret my actions. Now shut up you STUPID PEASANTS!

[bigtwnvin]

Well then perhaps yes, but Abe Lincoln ended that hypocrisy?

[tnt]

@Optrader

Preventable things?? You mean like lung cancer?

Yes. And things like car accidents.

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

Is it the purview of the central government to “save millions of lives” from their own decisions?

Yes. It is in the interest of the country not to have people die from preventable things.

It serves both the country’s fiscal and moral interests.

What does the Constitution say?

[WuWei]

@tnt

@Optrader

Preventable things?? You mean like lung cancer?

Yes. And things like car accidents.

Where did you get these ideas?

There are roughly 6 million vehicle accidents a year in this country. The fatality rate is 11.2 per 100k.

Doesn’t look to me like it’s working.

[Optrader]

@tnt

@Optrader

Preventable things?? You mean like lung cancer?

Yes. And things like car accidents.

And yet tobacco remains legal, while MANY things that cause far less death are regulated or outright illegal. Why is that?

[tnt]

@WuWei

What does the Constitution say?

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

[tnt]

@WuWei

Where did you get these ideas?

There are roughly 6 million vehicle accidents a year in this country. The fatality rate is 11.2 per 100k.

Doesn’t look to me like it’s working.

Now do the fatality rate before seat belt laws.

[WuWei]

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, prevent traffic accidents and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

Where did you get these ideas?

There are roughly 6 million vehicle accidents a year in this country. The fatality rate is 11.2 per 100k.

Doesn’t look to me like it’s working.

Now do the fatality rate before seat belt laws.

Don’t care.

[tnt]

@Optrader

And yet tobacco remains legal, while MANY things that cause far less death are regulated or outright illegal. Why is that?

Mostly because of money in politics, but also the timing of things.

but I agree, tobacco should be illegal. BUt I recognize the daunting economic ramifications of that decision. It’s extremely complicated.

[WuWei]

@tnt

but I agree, tobacco should be illegal.

Good Lord.

[tnt]

General Welfare.

Sorry.

[tnt]

@WuWei

Don’t care.

Then why did you post what you did? It’s a meaningless statistic in the context of a discussion of auto deaths being preventable with safety equipment.

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

Don’t care.

Then why did you post what you did? It’s a meaningless statistic in the context of a discussion of auto deaths being preventable with safety equipment.

I felt like it. Is there a difference between mandating the installation of safety devices and mandating use of those devices?

[tnt]

@WuWei

I felt like it. Is there a difference between mandating the installation of safety devices and mandating use of those devices?

Well, it’s a pointless statistic without the stat prior to teh implication of seatbelt requirements.

Seems like just different strategies.

[WuWei]

@tnt

@WuWei

I felt like it. Is there a difference between mandating the installation of safety devices and mandating use of those devices?

Well, it’s a pointless statistic without the stat prior to teh implication of seatbelt requirements.

Seems like just different strategies.

No, actually it isn’t. Take the law out and see what happens.

[SottoVoce]

@WuWei

@tnt

@WuWei

I felt like it. Is there a difference between mandating the installation of safety devices and mandating use of those devices?

Well, it’s a pointless statistic without the stat prior to teh implication of seatbelt requirements.

Seems like just different strategies.

No, actually it isn’t. Take the law out and see what happens.

The numbers are easily available.

Seat Belts | NHTSA

[PAmoderate37]

@WuWei

No, actually it isn’t. Take the law out and see what happens.

I don’t like laws designed to protect you from yourself. I remember when PA rescinded our motorcycle helmet law, the only people who were pissed, where people who didn’t even ride motorcycles.

[WuWei]

No, they aren’t. You are assuming the drivers are the same now as then and would revert back to the previous usage levels. Bad assumption.

[WuWei]

I don’t wear a seat belt because it’s law, it’s just an add on charge anyway.

I wear a seat belt because I am smart.