I deeply regret my actions. Now shut up you STUPID PEASANTS!

altair1013 · 2020-11-20T00:57:45.154Z

Oldandtired:

You worry about your life and I will worry about mine.

The more he knows, the easier it is to prove what a terrible person you are. And that is very important to him.

Oldandtired · 2020-11-20T00:59:24.801Z

No. I’m not like so many on here pretending to be what I am not.
I don’t wear a seat belt.
I never have. You want to wear one fine.
Just don’t force me to live by your rules and I won’t force you to live by mine.

SottoVoce · 2020-11-20T01:05:11.311Z

Oldandtired:

No. I’m not like so many on here pretending to be what I am not.
I don’t wear a seat belt.
I never have. You want to wear one fine.
Just don’t force me to live by your rules and I won’t force you to live by mine.

“Rules?” That’s called a “law.” Every state has mandatory seat belt laws. Are you saying you don’t need to live by those laws? Interesting. If you’re cavalier enough to post your disregard for seatbelt laws, please let us know which others you break. No need to pretend, right?

Oldandtired · 2020-11-20T01:12:20.058Z

No need for you to know.
What I do in my personal life is no business or yours.
Or does that only apply for special people’s bedroom habits?
And I’m sure you are in the group of people that say we have not given up any freedoms in the United States in the past 50 years.

PurpnGold · 2020-11-20T01:22:05.115Z

SottoVoce:

“Rules?” That’s called a “law.” Every state has mandatory seat belt laws. Are you saying you don’t need to live by those laws? Interesting. If you’re cavalier enough to post your disregard for seatbelt laws, please let us know which others you break. No need to pretend, right?

Drunk driving must be cool too…

Oldandtired · 2020-11-20T01:25:09.452Z

Sorry unlike a lot of people I have never drank or have I used drugs.

SottoVoce · 2020-11-20T01:25:28.529Z

Oldandtired:

No need for you to know.
What I do in my personal life is no business or yours.
Or does that only apply for special people’s bedroom habits?
And I’m sure you are in the group of people that say we have not given up any freedoms in the United States in the past 50 years.

Break laws to ensure “freedoms.” Got it. I shudder to think what your “special people” bedroom habits might be. To be honest, I feel better not knowing and have zero interest. Not sure why that was the first example you’d put forth. I guess some have the desire to partake in “freedoms” there too.

Keep on keepin on.

Oldandtired · 2020-11-20T01:28:14.519Z

Come on it’s a big leftist thing that we don’t need to get involved in the bedrooms of same sex couples.
I just ask for the same about my life. It’s none of your business.

WuWei · 2020-11-20T01:37:57.960Z

Good post. Can you give an example of a society that “enforces” without force?

SottoVoce:

I don’t see society as having an imperative.

No? While invoking the social contract here:

SottoVoce:

I do believe society has an “obligation” to enforce measures to reduce the spread of disease.

SottoVoce:

Rights are meaningless without life and health.

And yet people die every day fighting for rights.

SottoVoce:

You can maintain rights while having protection.

For a while maybe. In a small enough group maybe. Eventually it always results in diminished rights. The collective over the individual. The state over the citizens.

WuWei · 2020-11-20T01:39:17.411Z

tnt:

Lol

Sorry but seatbelt laws have saved millions of lives.

Law or not you should wear your seat belt.

Is it the purview of the central government to “save millions of lives” from their own decisions?

PurpnGold · 2020-11-20T01:43:51.101Z

WuWei:

Is it the purview of the central government to “save millions of lives” from their own decisions?

Drunk driving? Should it be illegal?

WuWei · 2020-11-20T01:48:17.754Z

PurpnGold:

WuWei:

Is it the purview of the central government to “save millions of lives” from their own decisions?

Drunk driving? Should it be illegal?

No.
…

PurpnGold · 2020-11-20T02:07:20.011Z

WuWei:

No.
…

People Should be able to drive drunk? Lol

amadeus · 2020-11-20T02:07:37.613Z

WuWei:

PurpnGold:

WuWei:

Is it the purview of the central government to “save millions of lives” from their own decisions?

Drunk driving? Should it be illegal?

No.
…

I drive drunk sometimes. And it should be illegal. I just don’t get caught.

WuWei · 2020-11-20T02:18:09.562Z

PurpnGold:

WuWei:

No.
…

People Should be able to drive drunk? Lol

Yes. Hitting other people, crashing into ■■■■ , etc. is against other laws.

WuWei · 2020-11-20T02:18:57.598Z

If you kill somebody with a car, you should be charged with murder. Murder is illegal.

Samm · 2020-11-20T02:36:09.751Z

tnt:

Mostly people smoke because nicotine is an incredibly addictive drug.

You have that backwards, most people don’t smoke because nicotine is an incredibly addictive drug. Most people who do smoke, don’t care that they are addicted.

Samm · 2020-11-20T02:39:54.002Z

Oldandtired:

Sorry unlike a lot of people I have never drank or have I used drugs.

What’s the point of being old then?

WuWei · 2020-11-20T02:55:33.271Z

Bacon

bigtwnvin · 2020-11-20T03:00:40.895Z

fallenturtle:

How is it not hypocritical to state “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” while owning slaves?

In the 18th century (unfortunately) slave ownership was not illegal and “slaves” were considered property traded in legal contract law.
Those points have been raised and debated as nauseum. To your point though thankfully the 2nd paragraph of the DOI is inclusive of ALL Americans.