“I am part of the Resistance in the Trump Administration” - Stunning Article in NYT

mbus · 2018-09-08T05:01:30.926Z

Konssurvative1:

I get that…but I have been told that because I am not a populist Trumpian I can’t be a conservative. I therefore must be a liberal. Because Trumpists are the new conservatives…and all others are just liberals.

This is unfortunate and ultimately incorrect. Conservatives and Liberals have never been in lock-step unity on ideology. Political ideology is much more a thousand shades of gray than black and white. Sorry folks (and sorry folks) are deciding who you are. Too much of that going around today.

Call_me_Ishmael · 2018-09-08T05:06:56.475Z

I liked the frothing at the mouth comment. It reminded me of that MC Escher piece of two hands drawing one another.

Frothing about Frothers

Konssurvative1 · 2018-09-08T11:25:19.925Z

What are you then. You guys are the ones claiming to be conservatives…and calling us conservatives liberals because we don’t support or stand in line behind Trump.

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-09-08T11:28:26.046Z

Call_me_Ishmael:

But we knew about the Republican side of the swamp.

we also know about the Trump swamp and that Trump is dirty as hell himself.

you got conned.

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-09-08T11:29:50.935Z

Call_me_Ishmael:

kingarthur65:

Call_me_Ishmael:

What are you guys smoking? You think Trump is trying to drain the swamp? Have you forgotten about Duincan Hunter and Collins? Trump doesn’t want them prosecuted. Those were inestigations by the Obama admin. Is this selective memory?

Are you also trying to change the “Deep State” definition? Up until the Op-Ed, the deeeep state was a bunch of Obama and Hillary holdovers working to control the government. Now, the deep state is what exactly? The swamp?

SO you are another who needs a venn diagram.

The deep state INCLUDED a bunch of Obama and Hillary holdovers. But we knew about the Republican side of the swamp.

Maybe you don’t know but thought you knew. Or maybe you knew but pretend now you didn’t.

Hunter and Collins are both definitely part of the swamp but Trump has publicly stated that it is wrong to charge them and get rid of them. He publicly stated that he wants to keep them in the swamp.

You can’t honestly declare that he is even trying to drain the swamp.

It just shows that Trump is pragmatic and flexible. You are too rigid in your thinking.

yeah. when you have to say stuff like that just to keep on trolling you might want to find another strategy. that’s too blatant.

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-09-08T11:32:22.283Z

Konssurvative1:

What are you then. You guys are the ones claiming to be conservatives…and calling us conservatives liberals because we don’t support or stand in line behind Trump.

they are run of the mill republicans who value power over any policy.

Smyrna · 2018-09-08T11:55:59.893Z

CaughtInTheMiddle:

you got conned.

…and you got Hillary.

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-09-08T11:58:27.017Z

Smyrna:

CaughtInTheMiddle:

you got conned.

…and you got Hillary.

it appears that the popular vote was right after all.

Call_me_Ishmael · 2018-09-08T12:41:56.262Z

CaughtInTheMiddle:

Call_me_Ishmael:

But we knew about the Republican side of the swamp.

we also know about the Trump swamp and that Trump is dirty as hell himself.

you got conned.

Ok. Whatever. But you are the one who never can figure out where the pea is.

How many more times are you gonna say “we got him THIS time” only to lift the shell and find out it’s not there?

Smyrna · 2018-09-08T12:47:41.561Z

CaughtInTheMiddle:

it appears that the popular vote was right after all.

…yep…right behind the electoral college.

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-09-08T13:57:02.882Z

Call_me_Ishmael:

CaughtInTheMiddle:

Call_me_Ishmael:

But we knew about the Republican side of the swamp.

we also know about the Trump swamp and that Trump is dirty as hell himself.

you got conned.

Ok. Whatever. But you are the one who never can figure out where the pea is.

How many more times are you gonna say “we got him THIS time” only to lift the shell and find out it’s not there?

Why would I say Trump has been busted? The initial investigation isn’t completed. Trump may be totally clean (although once his money man started cooperating my personal opinion of how this eventually plays out changed).

I do understand the how comforting the “you got the Tater now” thing is though. There’s so much chaos you have to take what you can during the madness.

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-09-08T14:02:19.148Z

Smyrna:

CaughtInTheMiddle:

it appears that the popular vote was right after all.

…yep…right behind the electoral college.

Oh, the popular vote doesn’t count. It is a bit conforming knowing that more than half of voters didn’t get conned and realized Trump is crazy though. Maybe we can build off that.

lulubee · 2018-09-08T14:02:21.970Z

Konssurvative1:

What are you then. You guys are the ones claiming to be conservatives…and calling us conservatives liberals because we don’t support or stand in line behind Trump.

They are White Nationalists.

LucyLou · 2018-09-08T14:05:09.967Z

No. C’mon now.
…

madasheck · 2018-09-08T14:23:42.845Z

Smyrna:

CaughtInTheMiddle:

you got conned.

…and you got Hillary.

No, we didn’t. And that’s what’s wrong with this country right now.

Konssurvative1 · 2018-09-08T14:49:43.826Z

Nah…thats just mean spirited I don’t believe they are. I think that some are Trump supporters but not all Trump supporters are white supremacists.

CaughtInTheMiddle · 2018-09-08T14:54:12.759Z

madasheck:

Smyrna:

CaughtInTheMiddle:

you got conned.

…and you got Hillary.

No, we didn’t. And that’s what’s wrong with this country right now.

yeah, she was far superior in pretty much every way except trash talking like talk radio.

that’s a major thing to always consider in the future.

7ranz · 2018-09-08T14:59:43.002Z

The resistance is writing op-eds for the New York Times. We are living in the worst Star Wars movie ever.

DougBH · 2018-09-08T15:00:37.873Z

Your guys current hero, Bob Woodward, said the Clinton foundation was corrupt and she was refusing to answer questions about it. Of course, that was back int the days when we were being told his good days were all behind him.
But what its all about is the issues. Some anonymous letter where someone makes an unsupported claim with no real details and Democrats believe every vague word of it. This is a nothing.

JayJay · 2018-09-08T15:11:39.568Z

And we told you Trump was bringing in his own even more fetid swamp.