How Much Central Government Is Too Much?

Yeah…u-rite…Thomas Jefferson was not independent. :sunglasses: :tumbler_glass:

Tell me…do you have a dog? If so, how much does it cost annually? Now convert that to a human, who most likely had their own residence, on the land that could have been used for additional crops…

You do not know, how much…you do not know.

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And yet the government enshrined slavery into law.

Exactly. Relying on the enslavement of hundreds of people for your success is far from independence.

In the winter of 1795-96 Thomas Paine wrote his last great pamphlet, “Agrarian Justice.” The pamphlet was first published in French in Paris. An English edition was brought out in 1797.

In this pamphlet Paine advocated the creation of a social insurance scheme for the aged and for young people just starting out in life. The benefits were to be paid from a national fund accumulated for this purpose. The fund was to be financed by a 10% tax on inherited property.

You need to cite your source, please.

You are free to distribute free food to whomever you wish. You will have no trouble finding organizations to help with this.
Though as far as I am aware the government is still heavily involved with this.

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Indeed. And most governments finally outlawed it.

Sadly, we still have legalized slavery in the US. Through the prison system, Prison labor is legal under the 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which prohibits slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime.

Sadly, people still commit felonies.

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The actual document.

Found it.

A lot of states can’t afford it.

Are you seriously arguing that owning slaves was as expensive as hiring free labor?

We have been brainwashed to think that “I am my brother’s keeper.”

The Lord didn’t say I was my brother’s keeper. It was Cain who asked the Lord, “am I my brother’s keeper?”

I am not my brother’s keeper, but my brother’s sister. My brother is his own keeper and I am my own keeper. It is before our Lord that we stand or fall and He is able to make us stand.

“Let every man be freely persuaded in his own mind.”

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Which was perfectly normal during those times. You are judging him via relativisim, ie: by the morals/norms of today vs what they were then.

Was that considered “normal” during that time period?
I would argue yes it was, so you are judging him using today’s morals/norms, and what many consider “normal” today will highly likely b le looked down on in 50-100 years.

I’m not “judging him,” I’m pointing out that he’s a ■■■■■■ example of someone succeeding independently since much of his success relied on enslavement. Henry Ford or Andrew Carnegie or thousands of others would be better examples.

Ooooh no!

They knew slavery was wrong then too. Especially Jefferson.

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