How much are you willing to spend on a BIg Mac?

the federal can and does dictate to states what to do.

see sodomy laws (which is still on the books in Texas)

Allan

That you don’t see the difference between the Feds prohibiting States from legalizing slavery and prohibiting them from demanding employers pay people more money for their labor is astounding. But then it should not surprise me, considering the source.

the source is @Safiel

take it up with him.

Allan

of course you wont because you are (gulp) wrong.

Allan

Most of those ā€œdictatesā€ are in the form of money.

Extortion.

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hint several states have minimum wage laws below 7.25.

guess what they pay. lol.

Allan

Yes, the cost of labor is in the equation, but because automation removes it entirely - IOW, the savings is so incredibly significant, a $5 (or whatever we are talking about) increase in labor is fairly insignificant to the equation mathematically. The cost of the machine is the most significant factor by far.

When I wake up I’ll try to write the equation.

If McD has to pay 20 per hour, What will that do to teachers, nurses, School Bus Drivers and other fields that are now 20 per hour with a lot of responsibility? Those people will now want 50 per hour minimum wage, or they will leave to go work for McDonalds. The govt likes the higher wages because they get more taxes out of it.

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Its so ridiculous to give a burger flipper 20 an hour. For a job you can basically walk in from the street to do.
Why not get those kids to places in their life that give them a trade or skill to use. Plenty of need for those areas and it requires people who have experience to do them.

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Yeah, yeah…and order everything else on Amazon…amirite?

Economy…what economy? ā€œWeā€ don’t need people to generate tax revenue, we have kiosks…

It’s hard to believe our country can be made up of such small thinkers as I continue to watch our economy shrink the number of jobs providing people the availability to EARN a living wage plus the desire of the individual to take on the necessary burdens of responsibility.

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Government is essentially legislating unemployment with stuff like this.

The last employment report that came out if I remember right included a massive amount of government jobs ands a lot of part time jobs (aka people perhaps supplementing their income to keep up with inflation.)

Mickey Dees, Burger King, Taco Bell and the rest provide a bunch of those jobs. Now we are legislating them away by making them unaffordable for the employer.

Stupid public policy, the kind of thing you expect from California libs.

And now it will spread….California is the breeding ground for dumb government ideas. Oregon and Washington will jump on the bandwagon…Cali will decide ā€œwhy just fast food workers?ā€

Rush used to ask ā€œwhen is enough enough? Just ask yourself if a $15 minimum wage is good isn’t $20 better, how about $30?, how about $40?

At some point we all start to say no that’s too much. The people who really should be making those decisions…the individuals who put up the capital and took the risks to build the businesses and provide the jobs are being taken completely out if the equation which makes no sense.

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The local McDonalds (we have a couple close) employees now are almost totally hispanics that speak english poorly.

No high school kids.

The other fast foods hire some kids.

Yeah, it’s kind of crazy. But the fact is, these jobs are filled by adults trying to raise families theses days, not kids working after school.

and that’s the challenge.

I know….I actually went into the one where I live a week or 10 days ago and felt like I was the only person in the place speaking English…

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The Sonic’s and some other places still use local high school kids.

Chik Fil A has a lot of permanent adults working there.

Not the hispanics McDonalds hires either.

In So Cal I have seen the progression.

It use to be high school kids who worked FF( first job and all)

Then high school kids were slowly replaced with retirees working PT.

Then the retirees we replace with fresh across the border hispanics who can’t even speak English, have extreme trouble taking an order and mostly get it wrong.

Now the hispanics will be replaced by technology. Which may improve the chances of getting the order correct.

Pretty much the only places that still hite kids is In-n-Out and Chik-Fil-A

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I agree with you. I think 20 an hour for that is absurd. However, these people are serving your food. I think they should be paid enough to care about their job. Whatever that may be. I know enough people that worked at these places to know never to eat there. It’s really disgusting what they do. The food is also absolute garbage. But what you do not want, is a disgruntled employee serving your food.

When we had the discussions on minimum wage on the board in the past?

I always said inflation would eat away at whatever increase there is. For some reason, people think $20.00 an hour means they will have more discretionary income.

In 1980 the minimum wage was about $3.10 an hour. Hell, even the illegals get paid more than that these days.

Like In n out burgers but they don’t have any here.

We read that next year or the year after they are going to build some here.

The OP said this California law applies to franchises with 60 stores or more. In a weird way I guess this could help the local mom and pops…

I dunno…$20 an hour mandated by the state is too much for a person to ask if I want fries with that.

Ps…I go to chic fil a a lot…their stores are always clean, the people working there are always nice and they speak English…

And I go to Sonic a lot…it’s close to my house but it’s still reasonably affordable with their app and yeah…both sonics in my hometown seem to employ a bunch of high school and college age kids.

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